“Truth is, Australians are sticklers for rules. They enjoy being governed, enjoy telling others what to do, and attack those who dare deviate from the accepted norm.”
He’s not wrong. Australia, the country where a man murdered his neighbour for watering the garden when the government said not to.
I think this is what shocked me most. I could not grasp how compliant Australians were to state power, and even worse, how they would act as enforcers for state power. The hatred towards the non-compliant was palpable. At over 70 years of age, I experienced a serious loss of trust and faith in Australia and Australians, from which I don't believe I will ever "recover". I have to adapt my life to the realisation that Australians are compliant, cowardly and profoundly ignorant. I neither like nor respect my country or my countrymen any more.
Yes I was so surprised especially at the traditionally “left” types like people in the arts who suddenly KNEW that big pharma and government had our best interests at heart, and that an expensive private-government partnership was the one and only and enforceable solution. Since when were arty types shills for massive corporations? It was too weird.
It's changing though is it not? I was in Melbourne a few months ago, seemed a lot more sane than New Zealand was at the time. Of course the main reason is to try and roll out the surveillance network for the 'SMART' city. And Melbourne's CBD is still squashed by the policies. But there was no need for masks when I was there but back here in NZ you got asked every 2 minutes for one (although that's changed in last few weeks)
The changes we see around us publicly like how many masks are being worn don't correlate with what "laws" under public health state of emergency provisions still exist or whether there's a state of emergency still in effect!
I think the public is getting angrier and more moody though: they know all of the #plandemic overreach & subsequent no-consent vaxxes was not for their safety. The public now has to start speaking out their stories, loudly!
Here in Perth there are still lots of believers. Like a lot of people are still genuinely scared of Covid and still think the vax affects transmission.
I thought about this a lot and would put it down to the majority of aussies alive today lived through several generations where politics and government was largely ignored. Mainly because we never had examples of governments directly affecting lives in such a tyrranical way. Add to that how weaponised the mainstream media became by inducing fear and putting forth only the public health agenda.
The federal commonwealth government was the largest spender on advertisements through msm AND gave MSM giant tax concessions to promote constant fear porn / compliance
I was denounced to my employer by an anonymous "friend." as a covid denier, anti-vaxer and Russian propagandist. They demanded I be fired from my job for my opinions. Now, I don't have anything connecting me to my employer on my Facebook page and I never talk about my work, so that means it was one of my friends, someone who actually knows me and knows what I do. Fortunately for me, the fact that I have nothing online linking me to my employer meant I couldn't be fired. But I was warned. Hence why I write under an anonymous pseudonym now. I am subhuman.
1. Immigrants. Other the English and Yanks, most people don't have a concept of "freedom of speech", and "freedom of thought". Look at that prawn Arnold S. Look around the world: only English speaking countries have any real resemblance of freedoms - or used to.
2. People have too much to lose.
3. They have become soft in the head. I've encountered two Aussies - offline and online - who invoked China!
4. Many don't have the time and aptitude to read and question for themselves. I had one man in his 70s who questioned why would govts lie to us! And other, an immigrant, claimed that govts care for us!
5. I suspect many did not, and still don't, that these measures are different from prior ones.
Some good points Barry. Not sure about #1, the anglos have been equally quick to bend over and insist that others do also. Time is a big point. It's extraordinarily time consuming to read up to a point of being able to understand the bigger picture.
If you look at masking, the majority are non-white. They rather avoid me than asking me why I do not wear it. Since they do not ask about something literally over their faces and in front of their eyes, how can we expect them to ask about covid, treatments and vaccines?
"Seek and ye shall find".
How much time do people spend each day in idle chatter?
Look at 21 May 2022. The Labor govts were/are more hardline yet they tossed ScoMo out! Look at Wutoria, Qld and WA.
I suspect most people don't realise the significance of has been happening.
(btw, I have something in common with O: we are both immigrants,)
Not that I wish such bloodshed on you all down under, but one of the differences I see between the United States, Canada, and Australia is the latter two nation states didn't spring from a rebellion (revolution) or have another one later on, such as the American Civil War. For as nasty as each was, those were crucibles that have always tested the limits of government authority in the USA up to this point. Americans may end up in another civil war before all of this (not just the response to 'vid but everything else on the road to totalitarianism). I don't wish that on you all but sometimes breaking points happen. Or we Americans are just inherently more violent than Aussies and Canadians. Sniffy and the minions are a joke (or is it the Minions and Sniffy?). The U.S. government truly doesn't have the resources to fight a dedicated minority of its own people, even if 5% of the entire population would resist them with arms, that's a 15+ million person fighting force. Remember, we never gave up our guns, there over 300 million firearms and many many billions of rounds of ammo in this country in private ownership. The DC Swamp should think very, very carefully about lighting too many fuses at once. If things go kinetic, at some threshold a point is passed were nobody knows how it ends. Not good. for anyone...
I never understood why Americans wanted to keep their guns until the past year. Now I get it. I'm still ambivalent on it... I grew up in a disarmed population and I feel good knowing that it's difficult for bad actors to get guns. I don't flinch when a shady figure walking past me at night reaches into their jacket... at the same time, if it comes down to civil war here, our entire population will have to defend ourselves with sticks.
Australians in general are gutless brainwashed compliant scared rules followers, it was very disappointing at the least to see all these cowards bow down to the state, considering we Australians HAD a reputation as independent carefree nation of don't fucking tell me what to to do.
I will only drink at one PUB in Perth- one that did not hoist the white flag - the 60/30 Tavern up in Clarkson full of working class Poms and Australians who saw through this scam from the beginning, IMO it was the educated UNI elite and middle class who blindly and stupidly complied ( in the main)
The owner let anyone vaxed or unvaxed eat and drink and his PUB was surrounded by WA Police many times who even shut down and locked patrons inside the establishment to check vaccine passports
I was and still am sickened by both the Police and Gov over this.
this will not stop until WE stop it, no one is coming to save us but most Australians are scared or blindly stupid to stand up to this tryany.
The bells palsy special - which one of our friends got about a month ago after 4 shots but not before berating about me to my wife about potentially clogging up the hospital as i wasn't jabbed.
the crispy pericarditis special - sadly i met a mum at one of the demonstrations in the city whose son contracted it after getting the jab to join a basketball program, who like me had never demonstrated before and was keen for FREEDOM MEDIA WA to put here story out but they told her politely that they had many stories like that but ones much worse.
its just not the country i grew up in and FWIW its a hill i intend to stand on for my kids and grandkids
I think this is what shocked me most. I could not grasp how compliant Australians were to state power, and even worse, how they would act as enforcers for state power. The hatred towards the non-compliant was palpable. At over 70 years of age, I experienced a serious loss of trust and faith in Australia and Australians, from which I don't believe I will ever "recover". I have to adapt my life to the realisation that Australians are compliant, cowardly and profoundly ignorant. I neither like nor respect my country or my countrymen any more.
Yes I was so surprised especially at the traditionally “left” types like people in the arts who suddenly KNEW that big pharma and government had our best interests at heart, and that an expensive private-government partnership was the one and only and enforceable solution. Since when were arty types shills for massive corporations? It was too weird.
It's changing though is it not? I was in Melbourne a few months ago, seemed a lot more sane than New Zealand was at the time. Of course the main reason is to try and roll out the surveillance network for the 'SMART' city. And Melbourne's CBD is still squashed by the policies. But there was no need for masks when I was there but back here in NZ you got asked every 2 minutes for one (although that's changed in last few weeks)
The changes we see around us publicly like how many masks are being worn don't correlate with what "laws" under public health state of emergency provisions still exist or whether there's a state of emergency still in effect!
I think the public is getting angrier and more moody though: they know all of the #plandemic overreach & subsequent no-consent vaxxes was not for their safety. The public now has to start speaking out their stories, loudly!
Speaking of smart cities... Stumbled onto this yesterday. https://www.clara.com.au
Here in Perth there are still lots of believers. Like a lot of people are still genuinely scared of Covid and still think the vax affects transmission.
Thanks, very interesting.
Oh there’s a LOT more than that going on
Agreed. You will have come across all the complex theories, like Mattias Desmet's Mass Formation, but I have a simpler proposal.
https://christinekent.substack.com/p/trust-the-experts
I thought about this a lot and would put it down to the majority of aussies alive today lived through several generations where politics and government was largely ignored. Mainly because we never had examples of governments directly affecting lives in such a tyrranical way. Add to that how weaponised the mainstream media became by inducing fear and putting forth only the public health agenda.
The federal commonwealth government was the largest spender on advertisements through msm AND gave MSM giant tax concessions to promote constant fear porn / compliance
I'm 38 and that is true for me. I just assumed history was history and bad things only happened in other places. Very naive,
You must be a male since women don't voluntarily disclose their ages.....
Nanny state in full force to nanny the children like a caretaker
I was denounced to my employer by an anonymous "friend." as a covid denier, anti-vaxer and Russian propagandist. They demanded I be fired from my job for my opinions. Now, I don't have anything connecting me to my employer on my Facebook page and I never talk about my work, so that means it was one of my friends, someone who actually knows me and knows what I do. Fortunately for me, the fact that I have nothing online linking me to my employer meant I couldn't be fired. But I was warned. Hence why I write under an anonymous pseudonym now. I am subhuman.
Almost fired for an unpopular opinion! Sounds like communism.
I suspect the following contributing factors:
1. Immigrants. Other the English and Yanks, most people don't have a concept of "freedom of speech", and "freedom of thought". Look at that prawn Arnold S. Look around the world: only English speaking countries have any real resemblance of freedoms - or used to.
2. People have too much to lose.
3. They have become soft in the head. I've encountered two Aussies - offline and online - who invoked China!
4. Many don't have the time and aptitude to read and question for themselves. I had one man in his 70s who questioned why would govts lie to us! And other, an immigrant, claimed that govts care for us!
5. I suspect many did not, and still don't, that these measures are different from prior ones.
Some good points Barry. Not sure about #1, the anglos have been equally quick to bend over and insist that others do also. Time is a big point. It's extraordinarily time consuming to read up to a point of being able to understand the bigger picture.
If you look at masking, the majority are non-white. They rather avoid me than asking me why I do not wear it. Since they do not ask about something literally over their faces and in front of their eyes, how can we expect them to ask about covid, treatments and vaccines?
"Seek and ye shall find".
How much time do people spend each day in idle chatter?
Look at 21 May 2022. The Labor govts were/are more hardline yet they tossed ScoMo out! Look at Wutoria, Qld and WA.
I suspect most people don't realise the significance of has been happening.
(btw, I have something in common with O: we are both immigrants,)
Who is O, Barry? where are you from originally?
Barack Hussein Obama.
How do you define " originally?" :)
Gotcha. Birth will do.
I had a guy on Sub (?) who asked me if "MD" meant doctor. So, I could not be sure. if you were pulling a Frauci on me....
Do you require a birth certificate? :)
Not that I wish such bloodshed on you all down under, but one of the differences I see between the United States, Canada, and Australia is the latter two nation states didn't spring from a rebellion (revolution) or have another one later on, such as the American Civil War. For as nasty as each was, those were crucibles that have always tested the limits of government authority in the USA up to this point. Americans may end up in another civil war before all of this (not just the response to 'vid but everything else on the road to totalitarianism). I don't wish that on you all but sometimes breaking points happen. Or we Americans are just inherently more violent than Aussies and Canadians. Sniffy and the minions are a joke (or is it the Minions and Sniffy?). The U.S. government truly doesn't have the resources to fight a dedicated minority of its own people, even if 5% of the entire population would resist them with arms, that's a 15+ million person fighting force. Remember, we never gave up our guns, there over 300 million firearms and many many billions of rounds of ammo in this country in private ownership. The DC Swamp should think very, very carefully about lighting too many fuses at once. If things go kinetic, at some threshold a point is passed were nobody knows how it ends. Not good. for anyone...
I never understood why Americans wanted to keep their guns until the past year. Now I get it. I'm still ambivalent on it... I grew up in a disarmed population and I feel good knowing that it's difficult for bad actors to get guns. I don't flinch when a shady figure walking past me at night reaches into their jacket... at the same time, if it comes down to civil war here, our entire population will have to defend ourselves with sticks.
Aussies are very organized and clean, so they are doing a very organized and clean democide of their own population.
lol yep
Australians in general are gutless brainwashed compliant scared rules followers, it was very disappointing at the least to see all these cowards bow down to the state, considering we Australians HAD a reputation as independent carefree nation of don't fucking tell me what to to do.
I will only drink at one PUB in Perth- one that did not hoist the white flag - the 60/30 Tavern up in Clarkson full of working class Poms and Australians who saw through this scam from the beginning, IMO it was the educated UNI elite and middle class who blindly and stupidly complied ( in the main)
The owner let anyone vaxed or unvaxed eat and drink and his PUB was surrounded by WA Police many times who even shut down and locked patrons inside the establishment to check vaccine passports
I was and still am sickened by both the Police and Gov over this.
this will not stop until WE stop it, no one is coming to save us but most Australians are scared or blindly stupid to stand up to this tryany.
The famous Sixty30! I'll never forget the Mao McGowan Chicken Wings.
The bells palsy special - which one of our friends got about a month ago after 4 shots but not before berating about me to my wife about potentially clogging up the hospital as i wasn't jabbed.
the crispy pericarditis special - sadly i met a mum at one of the demonstrations in the city whose son contracted it after getting the jab to join a basketball program, who like me had never demonstrated before and was keen for FREEDOM MEDIA WA to put here story out but they told her politely that they had many stories like that but ones much worse.
its just not the country i grew up in and FWIW its a hill i intend to stand on for my kids and grandkids