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Isaac Middle's avatar

Not in the ridiculously biophobic form that they are conceptualised in germ theory

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Rebekah Barnett's avatar

What do you think of the notion that it's a bit of both, germs and terrain? Germs exist and can do stuff, but terrain largely determines the outcome? So under that conceptualisation, an appropriate public health response to a *new germ* would be to immediately address terrain.

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Isaac Middle's avatar

I donтАЩt find тАЬno virusтАЭ to be a helpful framing. Clearly there are biological entities that can cause harm, particularly if they are injected. I personally think what we call тАЬvirusesтАЭ are created by the body as an adaptive response to increased toxicity. So a PCR test is simply testing for an increase in a helpful endogenous entity, but demonising it as an excuse to introduce more toxicity

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Rebekah Barnett's avatar

Ok I understand that. I have not delved deep enough into the issue to decide if I agree with you or not ЁЯШЖ I assume what we can both agree on though is that terrain was entirely ignored in the pandemic response, and that led to much suffering and probably death.

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Isaac Middle's avatar

ЁЯТп

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Mike Hemingway's avatar

I agree with Rebekah. There's a bit of both theories but In find the terrain theory to be somewhat extreme. Certainly bodily health is a very important factor in our overall health. I would be interested to understand more about what your mean by "the ridiculously biophobic form" in germ theory. It's all biology, after all.

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Isaac Middle's avatar

The biophobia is in the framing and the language. The premise of germ theory is that nature is out to get us: we can only survive its persistent and relentlessly evolving attacks on us through the help of $cience. тАЬVirusesтАЭ arenтАЩt neutral: they actively тАЬinfectтАЭ us by invading and then essentially colonising our bodies (which is why I like to equate germ theory to Zionism of the human body). It conditions us to irrationally blame without evidence a new microorganism every time a slightly novel form of illness emerges, and gives no credit to the human body that the тАЬillnessтАЭ might actually be an intelligent detoxification process.

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Kika's avatar

The language used interests me. 'Health' is 'invaded' by germs or infections. The cure must 'target' the 'invader'. The language of war. Our immune system "fights off the invaders", etc.

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Isaac Middle's avatar

IтАЩm surprised they havenтАЩt come up with a Jibby jab for cooties yetтАж

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