In news this week, the incredible lengths taken by the Victorian government to hide the health advice on which its extremist Covid policies were supposedly based.
The Herald Sun article reports David Davis saying:
QUOTE
“How can you lock down a community for so long and restrict their freedoms without having an absolute duty to be transparent and open about the reasons?
“We owe it to those who died, to those who suffered, and to the children who were robbed of their childhood to understand the reasons, and to learn the lessons, so they are never repeated.”
END OF QUOTE
Yes, there must be transparency for ALL the governments who collaborated in this deliberately manufactured crisis.
For instance, on 23 July 2021 I sent an email to Greg Hunt, then federal Minister for Health and Aged Care, asking the questions below...and I didn't receive an answer...
QUOTE
- What is the definition of 'the emergency' you are using to justify the Governor General's declaration of a human biosecurity emergency under the Biosecurity Act 2015?
- What is the "specialist medical and epidemiological advice provided by the Australian Health Protection Principal Committee (AHPPC) and the Commonwealth Chief Medical Officer"? Has this been objectively and independently assessed? Please provide me with the AHPPC and Commonwealth Chief Medical Officer's advice, and the empirical evidence supporting this advice.
- Who are the members of the AHPPC and 'other experts' influencing Australia's taxpayer-funded
response to covid-19 and the vaccine rollout? What are their names, role, qualifications/expertise,
professional affiliations, and any conflicts of interest, these must be clearly listed on the AHPPC
webpage.
END OF QUOTE
Again, I didn't receive an answer to the questions above.
We must have the answers now, and so much more information must be exposed in the court of public opinion before the next federal election.
Yes, I'm planning to forward this to Albanese and others.
And in regard to Greg Hunt, looks like he was a fifth columnist...
He was the former Director of Global Strategy of the World Economic Forum in 2000-2001, just before he entered the Australian Parliament in 2001, and before that Hunt was Engagement Manager at McKinsey & Co (1999-2001).
There's quite a lot about politicians that's not properly disclosed to the electorate before they stand for election, that if we knew, we would be challenging the authenticity of their representation of the people.
But...to whom do these politicians actually pledge their allegiance...it's to the Crown, now King Charles...another acolyte of the World Economic Forum...
A good letter. But I know the answer if you get one: The DOD ordered our Army to do so with the power of the WHO. (All vaccine deliveries state that they are property of the DOD). The declaration of an emergency by the WHO overrides the sovereignty of our country. I have just again listened to reports on the power of the WHO, a subsidiary of the UN.... though it is run by private interests, the most prominent being GAVI and other NGOs. A first very important step for us is to QUIT our membership with THE WHO. The next step would be to ask our Army why it follows the orders of a foreign army to act against their own citizens.
Remember how Hunt said that we are taking part in a world-wide vaccine trial? Sukharet found an order to the German RKI (Robert Koch Institute) dated 27.4.2020 to develop a general concept for vaccinations ( before vaccines were yet available). It says in detail: there will be several vaccines available which had been (past tense) developed with speed and relevant data of safety and effectiveness will be established 'POST MARKETING' (i.e. TESTING on the world-wide population.)
Re: "relevant data of safety and effectiveness will be established 'POST MARKETING' (i.e. TESTING on the world-wide population.)"
Indeed...TESTING on the world-wide population...
In Australia, then Secretary of the Health Department, Brendan Murphy, lied to the Australian people in February 2021 when he assured them the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccine products had "gone through the normal, full range of regulatory approvals for our vaccines...we have been able to do the full, safe, regulatory approval...we have not cut any corners" and "we...decided that to get the confidence of the people in Australia, because we had no community transmission, we were not going to do anything other than our full normal registration process", during an interview with Leigh Sales on the ABC's 7.30 program.
This was misleading advice because in fact both the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccine products had only been given 'provisional' approval by the TGA - this was NOT made clear to the Australian public.
The TGA provisional approval statement for both the Pfizer COMIRNATY and COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca vaccine products states:
QUOTE
"Provisional approval of this vaccine is valid for two years and means it can now be legally supplied in Australia. The approval is subject to certain strict conditions, such as the requirement for (Pfizer/AstraZeneca) to continue providing information to the TGA on longer term efficacy and safety from ongoing clinical trials and post market assessment. (Pfizer COMIRNATY/COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca) has been shown to prevent COVID19 however it is not yet known whether it prevents transmission or asymptomatic disease."
END OF QUOTE
And there it is - the admission re ongoing clinical trials and post market assessment.
The world wide population was indeed being subjected to an experiment...without valid voluntary informed consent...
Yes, Hunt actually admitted "The world is engaged in the largest clinical trial, the largest global vaccination trial ever, and we will have enormous amounts of data."
And he also said...
"But what’s the message for the public? It’s safe, it’s effective, it will help protect you, but it will also help protect your mum and dad, your grandparents, your nonna, all of Australia."
Hunt said that to David Speers in February 2021...
Supposedly Australia is a democracy, but it's not in the public's interest to be told why they're being tyrannised? And lawyers require millions of dollars and years to deal with this complicated, nuanced issue?
Did Victorians "overwhelmingly support harsh restrictions to curb Covid second wave" because they and the rest of us had been told a tissue of fear-mongering lies about 'Covid', the name given to the set of common respiratory ailments apparently caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus, aka the 'killer virus' that didn't actually kill most people?
A torrent of propaganda was poured upon the public, all with the aim of making them submit to COVID-19 vaccination, and a social credit system being built on the 'vaccine passport'.
It was a torrent of mis/disinformation aka lies.
And do you know what this means? It means the public was not able to make an authentic informed decision about the COVID-19 vaccines...and what did that matter any way, because the vaccines were MANDATED for people, to keep their jobs and participate in society.
So here's the big scandal that's waiting to explode...there's NO VALID CONSENT for all those 73 million COVID-19 vaccine doses* reportedly foisted upon the population, because it's impossible for vaccination providers to obtain valid voluntary informed consent for vaccination in a hostile climate of fear-mongering lies and coercion and mandates.
"If there is really nothing to apologize for then the Victorian Govt should have no qualms about releasing its top secret health advice." That says it all. Why is the health advice so top secret? Do they think we are too stupid to understand why they took the actions they took? No they think we are too smart to accept the ridiculous basis of the decisions they made! They would be absolute laughing stocks if it were not for the harm they caused with their 'rules on the run' from the extra infectious influenza they tried to terrify us with. Liars hate transparency, they thrive in dictatorships where info is hidden.
Many folks from Victoria got out to NSW and Qld. Lost socially, their indoctrinated families who stayed behind. They still carry that trauma even though they are no longer in Victoria. Its amazing that one state of Australia went so rogue. What did Scott have on Dan I wonder?
The question should also be asked why Scott Morrison had police in Canberra apply directed (wave and acoustic) weapons on peaceful protesters. I will never forget the blistered face of one of the injured.
I assume that the police 'protecting' the Gov House are employed and directed by the head of the Government. I have never heard of other incidents where directed wave and acoustic weapons were used on the public. In Victoria it was rubber bullets.
There were many (most) people who were happy to dispense with human rights altogether and run this place like a prison colony. It must be so annoying to them that some people still have questions and demand accountability…
Hopefully the released documents will make clear the quality of the ‘health data’ that justified such extreme actions. One entirely plausible theory (aka ‘conspiracy theory’) is that the extreme measures were intended mostly to scare the daylights out of people to make them enthusiastic to get the miracle vaccines. Were the politicians also fooled by the bureaucrats (and those influencing them) or were they part of the problem in more sinister ways? If the advice had scientific credibility - so it was actually about health and not about power and control - why on Earth would it be confidential? What are the implications for other rogue states - notably Western Australia - of some actual transparency of ‘health advice’?
The essence of scientific claims is that they can be empirically tested and are thus always tentative. All scientific claims. In other words, if a statement is not falsifiable, it is not scientific. By definition, secret advice is not scientific advice. It makes no sense for ‘health advice’ to be concealed unless it is not in fact scientific in nature.
I read that Andrews was constantly polling the community to gauge the level of support for his government's actions. This is what any prudent politician does.
It is also worth noting that a year after coming out of the last lockdown (and more than two years after that Guardian article) his government was easily returned to office.
Next, the two surveys' findings (as reported) referred to different things. The first (in the Guardian article dated 12 Aug) had to do with restrictions in human movement but had nothing to do with vaccine mandates - or masking, for that matter. The second survey seemed to have more to do with vaccine mandates and the general concept of trading off individual liberties for the good of the collective.
Regarding the material to be released, it will be argued (in defense of any apparent improprieties/shortcuts/deceptions) that it was all in the best interests of public safety. Zzz.
I recall numerous announcements by Captain Dan which took the general form: Acting on health advice we are now enforcing restrictions X, Y and Z. :):)
Returning to the issue of democracy, it seems to me (as it did to Socrates, apparently) that it comes with significant problems.
One obvious problem (though perhaps not one on Socrates list) is that the MSM utterly drives/orchestrates public sentiment. And public sentiment drives political action, in the quest of votes. Thus, he who controls the MSM essentially controls society, via the democratic process.
The public was tortured but it is not in their interest to know why?????
The Herald Sun article reports David Davis saying:
QUOTE
“How can you lock down a community for so long and restrict their freedoms without having an absolute duty to be transparent and open about the reasons?
“We owe it to those who died, to those who suffered, and to the children who were robbed of their childhood to understand the reasons, and to learn the lessons, so they are never repeated.”
END OF QUOTE
Yes, there must be transparency for ALL the governments who collaborated in this deliberately manufactured crisis.
For instance, on 23 July 2021 I sent an email to Greg Hunt, then federal Minister for Health and Aged Care, asking the questions below...and I didn't receive an answer...
QUOTE
- What is the definition of 'the emergency' you are using to justify the Governor General's declaration of a human biosecurity emergency under the Biosecurity Act 2015?
- What is the "specialist medical and epidemiological advice provided by the Australian Health Protection Principal Committee (AHPPC) and the Commonwealth Chief Medical Officer"? Has this been objectively and independently assessed? Please provide me with the AHPPC and Commonwealth Chief Medical Officer's advice, and the empirical evidence supporting this advice.
- Who are the members of the AHPPC and 'other experts' influencing Australia's taxpayer-funded
response to covid-19 and the vaccine rollout? What are their names, role, qualifications/expertise,
professional affiliations, and any conflicts of interest, these must be clearly listed on the AHPPC
webpage.
END OF QUOTE
Again, I didn't receive an answer to the questions above.
We must have the answers now, and so much more information must be exposed in the court of public opinion before the next federal election.
See this link for my original email to Greg Hunt: https://vaccinationispolitical.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/the-covid-emergency-and-medical-and-scientific-experts.pdf
This letter is still valid for the questions to be asked. Had Greg Hunt answered your letter he would have had to admit that he was/is a WEF stooge.
Yes, I'm planning to forward this to Albanese and others.
And in regard to Greg Hunt, looks like he was a fifth columnist...
He was the former Director of Global Strategy of the World Economic Forum in 2000-2001, just before he entered the Australian Parliament in 2001, and before that Hunt was Engagement Manager at McKinsey & Co (1999-2001).
There's quite a lot about politicians that's not properly disclosed to the electorate before they stand for election, that if we knew, we would be challenging the authenticity of their representation of the people.
But...to whom do these politicians actually pledge their allegiance...it's to the Crown, now King Charles...another acolyte of the World Economic Forum...
References:
- https://www.greghunt.com.au/about-greg/biography/
- https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/House_of_Representatives/Powers_practice_and_procedure/Practice7/HTML/Chapter5/Swearing-in
I've now forwarded an email on this matter to Prime Minister Anthony Albanese.
I've published it in my substack article: The 'Covid emergency' and the 'health advice'...aka Medical Tyranny: https://elizabethhart.substack.com/p/the-covid-emergency-and-the-health
A good letter. But I know the answer if you get one: The DOD ordered our Army to do so with the power of the WHO. (All vaccine deliveries state that they are property of the DOD). The declaration of an emergency by the WHO overrides the sovereignty of our country. I have just again listened to reports on the power of the WHO, a subsidiary of the UN.... though it is run by private interests, the most prominent being GAVI and other NGOs. A first very important step for us is to QUIT our membership with THE WHO. The next step would be to ask our Army why it follows the orders of a foreign army to act against their own citizens.
Remember how Hunt said that we are taking part in a world-wide vaccine trial? Sukharet found an order to the German RKI (Robert Koch Institute) dated 27.4.2020 to develop a general concept for vaccinations ( before vaccines were yet available). It says in detail: there will be several vaccines available which had been (past tense) developed with speed and relevant data of safety and effectiveness will be established 'POST MARKETING' (i.e. TESTING on the world-wide population.)
Re: "relevant data of safety and effectiveness will be established 'POST MARKETING' (i.e. TESTING on the world-wide population.)"
Indeed...TESTING on the world-wide population...
In Australia, then Secretary of the Health Department, Brendan Murphy, lied to the Australian people in February 2021 when he assured them the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccine products had "gone through the normal, full range of regulatory approvals for our vaccines...we have been able to do the full, safe, regulatory approval...we have not cut any corners" and "we...decided that to get the confidence of the people in Australia, because we had no community transmission, we were not going to do anything other than our full normal registration process", during an interview with Leigh Sales on the ABC's 7.30 program.
This was misleading advice because in fact both the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccine products had only been given 'provisional' approval by the TGA - this was NOT made clear to the Australian public.
The TGA provisional approval statement for both the Pfizer COMIRNATY and COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca vaccine products states:
QUOTE
"Provisional approval of this vaccine is valid for two years and means it can now be legally supplied in Australia. The approval is subject to certain strict conditions, such as the requirement for (Pfizer/AstraZeneca) to continue providing information to the TGA on longer term efficacy and safety from ongoing clinical trials and post market assessment. (Pfizer COMIRNATY/COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca) has been shown to prevent COVID19 however it is not yet known whether it prevents transmission or asymptomatic disease."
END OF QUOTE
And there it is - the admission re ongoing clinical trials and post market assessment.
The world wide population was indeed being subjected to an experiment...without valid voluntary informed consent...
Massive scandal...waiting to erupt...
See my email to Brendan Murphy on this matter, sent in February 2021 - I did not receive a response: COVID-19 vaccines are NOT fully approved by the TGA: https://vaccinationispolitical.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/covid-19-vaccines-are-not-fully-approved-by-the-tga.pdf
Yes, Hunt actually admitted "The world is engaged in the largest clinical trial, the largest global vaccination trial ever, and we will have enormous amounts of data."
And he also said...
"But what’s the message for the public? It’s safe, it’s effective, it will help protect you, but it will also help protect your mum and dad, your grandparents, your nonna, all of Australia."
Hunt said that to David Speers in February 2021...
It's not ageing well is it?
Worth having a good long look at the transcript now, see: https://www.health.gov.au/ministers/the-hon-greg-hunt-mp/media/interview-with-david-speers-on-abc-insiders-on-the-covid-19-vaccine-rollout
Supposedly Australia is a democracy, but it's not in the public's interest to be told why they're being tyrannised? And lawyers require millions of dollars and years to deal with this complicated, nuanced issue?
Umm ...
Re: "Nearly three-quarters of Victorians supported the Andrews government’s extreme measures in the first year of the pandemic, polling shows."
The link in that quote is to a Guardian article published in August 2020 titled: Essential poll: Victorians overwhelmingly support harsh restrictions to curb Covid second wave: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/aug/12/essential-poll-victorians-overwhelmingly-support-harsh-restrictions-to-curb-covid-second-wave
Did Victorians "overwhelmingly support harsh restrictions to curb Covid second wave" because they and the rest of us had been told a tissue of fear-mongering lies about 'Covid', the name given to the set of common respiratory ailments apparently caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus, aka the 'killer virus' that didn't actually kill most people?
A torrent of propaganda was poured upon the public, all with the aim of making them submit to COVID-19 vaccination, and a social credit system being built on the 'vaccine passport'.
It was a torrent of mis/disinformation aka lies.
And do you know what this means? It means the public was not able to make an authentic informed decision about the COVID-19 vaccines...and what did that matter any way, because the vaccines were MANDATED for people, to keep their jobs and participate in society.
So here's the big scandal that's waiting to explode...there's NO VALID CONSENT for all those 73 million COVID-19 vaccine doses* reportedly foisted upon the population, because it's impossible for vaccination providers to obtain valid voluntary informed consent for vaccination in a hostile climate of fear-mongering lies and coercion and mandates.
See my recent email on this matter to Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese: Violated by vaccination mandates - there is no valid consent for COVID-19 vaccination: https://vaccinationispolitical.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/violated-by-vaccination-mandates-there-is-no-valid-consent-for-covid-19-vaccination.pdf
*https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/2025-03/covid-19-vaccine-rollout-update-14-march-2025.pdf
I wouldn't trust any poll that The Guardian conducted
"If there is really nothing to apologize for then the Victorian Govt should have no qualms about releasing its top secret health advice." That says it all. Why is the health advice so top secret? Do they think we are too stupid to understand why they took the actions they took? No they think we are too smart to accept the ridiculous basis of the decisions they made! They would be absolute laughing stocks if it were not for the harm they caused with their 'rules on the run' from the extra infectious influenza they tried to terrify us with. Liars hate transparency, they thrive in dictatorships where info is hidden.
Many folks from Victoria got out to NSW and Qld. Lost socially, their indoctrinated families who stayed behind. They still carry that trauma even though they are no longer in Victoria. Its amazing that one state of Australia went so rogue. What did Scott have on Dan I wonder?
The question should also be asked why Scott Morrison had police in Canberra apply directed (wave and acoustic) weapons on peaceful protesters. I will never forget the blistered face of one of the injured.
Was that definitely a Scomo order?
I assume that the police 'protecting' the Gov House are employed and directed by the head of the Government. I have never heard of other incidents where directed wave and acoustic weapons were used on the public. In Victoria it was rubber bullets.
Luise, re the Scott and Dan relationship, this was in the cosy network of National Cabinet...
For some more background, see for example:
- Coercion, intimidation and mandates preclude voluntary informed consent for vaccination There has been no valid consent for COVID-19 vaccination: https://elizabethhart.substack.com/p/coercion-intimidation-and-mandates
- My detailed paper: Misfeasance in Public Office? The Destruction of Voluntary Informed Consent for Vaccination: https://vaccinationispolitical.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/misfeasance-in-public-office-the-destruction-of-voluntary-informed-consent-for-vaccination.pdf
There were many (most) people who were happy to dispense with human rights altogether and run this place like a prison colony. It must be so annoying to them that some people still have questions and demand accountability…
[that it made ‘no apologies for saving lives.’ ]
That assertion is looking increasingly invalid in light of what has transpired in the case of excess deaths.
Hopefully the released documents will make clear the quality of the ‘health data’ that justified such extreme actions. One entirely plausible theory (aka ‘conspiracy theory’) is that the extreme measures were intended mostly to scare the daylights out of people to make them enthusiastic to get the miracle vaccines. Were the politicians also fooled by the bureaucrats (and those influencing them) or were they part of the problem in more sinister ways? If the advice had scientific credibility - so it was actually about health and not about power and control - why on Earth would it be confidential? What are the implications for other rogue states - notably Western Australia - of some actual transparency of ‘health advice’?
The essence of scientific claims is that they can be empirically tested and are thus always tentative. All scientific claims. In other words, if a statement is not falsifiable, it is not scientific. By definition, secret advice is not scientific advice. It makes no sense for ‘health advice’ to be concealed unless it is not in fact scientific in nature.
Can I bet you a Founding Membership that the advice was along the lines of the Premier saying:
"Rubber Stamp my latest bullshit policy, or else"?
You're on.
I read that Andrews was constantly polling the community to gauge the level of support for his government's actions. This is what any prudent politician does.
It is also worth noting that a year after coming out of the last lockdown (and more than two years after that Guardian article) his government was easily returned to office.
Next, the two surveys' findings (as reported) referred to different things. The first (in the Guardian article dated 12 Aug) had to do with restrictions in human movement but had nothing to do with vaccine mandates - or masking, for that matter. The second survey seemed to have more to do with vaccine mandates and the general concept of trading off individual liberties for the good of the collective.
Regarding the material to be released, it will be argued (in defense of any apparent improprieties/shortcuts/deceptions) that it was all in the best interests of public safety. Zzz.
No one is mad at a politician for routine temperature checking.
People were mad with Palaszczuk and Andrews for basing extremist and "public health policy" off polling. But I think you know that ;)
I recall numerous announcements by Captain Dan which took the general form: Acting on health advice we are now enforcing restrictions X, Y and Z. :):)
Returning to the issue of democracy, it seems to me (as it did to Socrates, apparently) that it comes with significant problems.
One obvious problem (though perhaps not one on Socrates list) is that the MSM utterly drives/orchestrates public sentiment. And public sentiment drives political action, in the quest of votes. Thus, he who controls the MSM essentially controls society, via the democratic process.
That's why a well-functioning fourth estate is essential to democracy. Theoretically, it's supposed to inform, not propagandise.
Here is the problem. The masses (not us of course) feed on slop. They are not interested in balanced, nuanced journalism.