Jan 15, 2023·edited Jan 15, 2023Liked by Rebekah Barnett
Actually Rebekah what Dr Price should do is that she should file a criminal complaint against AHPRA under the Public Interest Disclosure Act. There will be a duty to investigate AHPRA for threatening a person affiliated with a public entity (AHPRA) for raising concerns in the public interest.
She should first write back to the individual who wrote the letter to her and outline that she has not re-registered because she has strong reason to believe that AHPRA are acting to intimidate her into withholding any commentary on the dangers of the COVID-19 vaccines which are outlined clearly in the TGA's adverse event reports. On that basis she now feels intimidated to express her views in the public interest purely due to the letter that [named individual at AHPRA] has sent her. She requests that a response is sent within 3 working days outlining why AHPRA believed that raising concerns in the public interest about a potential danger to the public, in good faith, would be cause for investigation. Finally, in the absence of an apology a correction and an assurance that this will never happen again she will be left with no alternative but to file a criminal complaint against [named individual]. To reiterate, either the individual writing the letter an acting on behalf of AHPRA, or in their absence an alternative officer with sufficient authority, must clearly and unambiguously - without reservation - reply clearly that AHPRA supports and encourages doctors to raise safety concerns in the public interest, including but not limited to vaccines and investigation products marketed as vaccines. That in the absence of such a response she will proceed to impose her lawful protections as an Australian citizen against intimidation from AHPRA or its members under both the public interest disclosure act (as doctor whilst registered with a public entity) and under section 9.4AAA of the corporations act. That to clarify, to avoid any doubt:
(i) that she acted in good faith drawing attention to the public's concerns about the safety of an investigational product
(ii) that she felt extremely intimidated by the letter from AHPRA intended to stop her raising safety concerns in the public interest
(iii) safety concerns that were raised in the specified public forum were scientifically valid and confirmed by the TGA and therefore it was both her right and duty under the AHPRA code of conduct and the Australian Public Interest Disclosure Act to highlight those concerns using social media
(iv) failure to clarify that raising safety concerns, including the method used that started the investigation, conjoined to an apology for the mistake made by AHPRA in sending the letter, would indicate to her that a criminal act has been committed and as an Australian citizen and doctor registered at the time she would have an obligation to report this to the Attorney general for a full investigation under the acts specified.
Just my suggestion, but help is available should it be needed.
Note also that AHPRA were already notified that they must not take these actions as per the letter contained here:
2. If Dr Price sees this note of yours, she should be able to draft a warning herself to AHPRA. Of course, she needs to read the AHPRA Act in addition to the Disclosure Act you mentioned..
3. She should mentioned the lack of due process that she suffered. The two pillars of due process are the right to be heard and the right to a fair hearing (NATURAL JUSTICE). It is basal to any right to be heard is the right to know the nature of the complaint and the identity of the complainant. That s/be obvious to any rational person.
4. Of course, she should include in her letter that she reserves all her rights.
5. if she wants to engage a lawyer, an expensive and risky undertaking, she must first document her experience in detail. Of course, she needs to shop around for a trustworthy lawyer and ask for a quote or a reasonably accurate cost expectations. Note that most lawyers personally did not oppose any of the measures. And some, in fact, supported them. She must NOT engage that feral lefty Julian Burnside QC in Melbourne. He actually supported the lockdowns and other measures. I have personal "receipts"!
6. In any legal matter, having documented facts is the key to success. Facts engage the law and the judge(s) dictate the outcome.
7. Don't trust any forecast or expectations of success from any lawyer unless that lawyer has a trusted history. To a large extent, lawyers are very expensive taxi-drivers. Note the difference between "should" and "would". Be 95%! on alert if any lawyer uses those two words.
Of course that is unfortunately true. According to the law any blowback would also be a criminal act - looking at what they have done "for the common good" however I wouldn't bet on that stopping them!
Jan 15, 2023·edited Jan 15, 2023Liked by Rebekah Barnett
The Supreme Court submission that can be accessed at the link below is lengthy but worth reading. There are reports of AHPRA having driven doctors to suicide and they have never been held accountable. Unfortunately, individuals with the personality disorder known as OCPD tend to rise to the top of such organisations. It's a very serious PD found commonly in serial murderers. They tend to dominate in ethics councils, professional associations and regulatory bodies. Hitler is believed to have had the condition. Overconcern with ethics might have contributed to his vegetarianism and to the Aktion T4 Nazi euthanasia program. Idaho murders suspect Bryan Kohberger also fits the picture. A Royal Commission into AHPRA would not be sufficient. AHPRA needs to be abolished. By contributing to suppression and distortion of factual information, they may have caused untold numbers of deaths. They are a menace to patient and public safety.
I’m so sorry Dr Sally Price, Dr Chris Neil (and all those esteemed colleagues who have also held their ground) have been subjected to mistreatment by their own governing body - it’s a disgrace. BUT it’s also a defining moment for health care in Australia, and for that I’m grateful. We now know who truly cares for the patient and for the truth, and in my books that’s a massive win.
Are you paying attention to what's happening to Jordan Peterson and his current battle with the Ontario College of Psychologists? Not directly Covid-related, but but it's illustrative of a similar mindset that has taken over many of these regulatory bodies.
I think this - having doctor's who are not prepared to go along with and implement immoral orders remove themselves from office - is exactly what they want, leaving the ones who will blindly and willingly follow any orders.
I noticed this same thing in the US military during the last 10 years. It seems like they're actively trying to push anyone of conscience and conviction out, leaving only the ideologues and the 'follow instructions' functionaries.
However it could simply be a natural phenomena, where bad ideas get amplified and become self-reinforcing within the kinds of giant systems that feature rigid hierarchies, and reward compliance. It's been so efficient at purging the 'thinkers' that it *seems* deliberate, but perhaps it really is just a byproduct of building giant systems of govt/regulation/whatever...
The system gets so big it requires (and demands) adherence to rigid hierarchies of decision making & authority, in order to function.
> Then power is hoarded by people who are very remote from the consequences of organisational decisions.
> Everyone downstream simply obeys the orders from above. The system demands increasing conformity over time, as a byproduct of it's unwieldy size [think: streamlining of workflows that remove options to exercise judgement 'on the ground', and implementation of more top-down rules and guidelines governing how even the smallest things should be done]
> Those who find this stifling, or find themselves in opposition to the rules and guidelines, they become a threat to the functioning of the giant system, which could collapse into chaos if too many reject the rules. Central authority can't lose control so they start purging the 'problems'.
Chuck in a few sociopaths in the central node and you could easily have a naturally arising tyrannical bureaucracy, that didn't have a conscious mission to purge dissidents, but created a structure that has come to require that for it's very survival.
Globalisation and interconnectedness has had a wicked downside: the proliferation of giant power structures — bureaucracies, supra-national orgs, mega-corporations. We need to find ways to break them up and spread the power back outwards (and downwards). A major challenge.
Ideological conformity is the ultimate goal of all totalitarian systems. Nonconformists are strictly forbidden; indeed, they must be terrorised at every turn.
Goodness me. So much respect for Dr Price. AND she's an integrative doctor of both western/eastern medicine... you don't see many of those in Australia (speaking as an Ayurvedic practitioner). I dare say we are well due to think outside the box in terms of how a parallel economy will work. I do hope there is a vehicle, in due course, that ties us all together so we can get on with living a healthy and productive life. We'll visit the old country now and then with our day visitor pass and see how everybody is doing - probably pack our own lunch.
AHPRA, run in part by the recent former PM's wife... A so called regulatory body, who more recently specialises in a more communist style of mis-management, illegal operations, coertion and outright tyranical punishment / censorship of health professionals in Australia. This group are nothing more than an organised crime corporation (yes, like all Aust Gov departments, they have an ABN so they are corporations)..
Obviously Dr Price didnd’t realise she had been licensed to kill and as such she should shut up for to speak the truth is to break the regulatory silence of wrongdoing. Somehow her profession regulates allowing for monopolies, conflicts of interest and doctor behavioural ethic breaches.
Seems there will be no short supply of former actual and moral ex-doctors who will be needed to head up new health agencies that are actual health agencies.
Corrupt filth at a private company.... suing them out of existence is the only solution.... if they are money and corrupt focused (which is obvious) drain their fucking coffers, they threw the first punch and laughed in your face.... 500 direct lawsuits with merit will bury them
It was a very bold and stupid statement AHPRA has put forth in March 2021. It is almost if they thought they were invincible. Maybe they imagined we would have digital money and social credit scores by now. That statement will come back to bite them in the ass hard.
Actually Rebekah what Dr Price should do is that she should file a criminal complaint against AHPRA under the Public Interest Disclosure Act. There will be a duty to investigate AHPRA for threatening a person affiliated with a public entity (AHPRA) for raising concerns in the public interest.
She should first write back to the individual who wrote the letter to her and outline that she has not re-registered because she has strong reason to believe that AHPRA are acting to intimidate her into withholding any commentary on the dangers of the COVID-19 vaccines which are outlined clearly in the TGA's adverse event reports. On that basis she now feels intimidated to express her views in the public interest purely due to the letter that [named individual at AHPRA] has sent her. She requests that a response is sent within 3 working days outlining why AHPRA believed that raising concerns in the public interest about a potential danger to the public, in good faith, would be cause for investigation. Finally, in the absence of an apology a correction and an assurance that this will never happen again she will be left with no alternative but to file a criminal complaint against [named individual]. To reiterate, either the individual writing the letter an acting on behalf of AHPRA, or in their absence an alternative officer with sufficient authority, must clearly and unambiguously - without reservation - reply clearly that AHPRA supports and encourages doctors to raise safety concerns in the public interest, including but not limited to vaccines and investigation products marketed as vaccines. That in the absence of such a response she will proceed to impose her lawful protections as an Australian citizen against intimidation from AHPRA or its members under both the public interest disclosure act (as doctor whilst registered with a public entity) and under section 9.4AAA of the corporations act. That to clarify, to avoid any doubt:
(i) that she acted in good faith drawing attention to the public's concerns about the safety of an investigational product
(ii) that she felt extremely intimidated by the letter from AHPRA intended to stop her raising safety concerns in the public interest
(iii) safety concerns that were raised in the specified public forum were scientifically valid and confirmed by the TGA and therefore it was both her right and duty under the AHPRA code of conduct and the Australian Public Interest Disclosure Act to highlight those concerns using social media
(iv) failure to clarify that raising safety concerns, including the method used that started the investigation, conjoined to an apology for the mistake made by AHPRA in sending the letter, would indicate to her that a criminal act has been committed and as an Australian citizen and doctor registered at the time she would have an obligation to report this to the Attorney general for a full investigation under the acts specified.
Just my suggestion, but help is available should it be needed.
Note also that AHPRA were already notified that they must not take these actions as per the letter contained here:
https://gerardrennick.com.au/are-sacked-medical-professionals-protected-as-whistleblowers-ahpra-is-on-notice/
Great advice! Certainly legal council should be engaged, AHPRA are completely criminal - a class action may also be in order...
counsel
1. Beware of blowbacks with any complaints
2. If Dr Price sees this note of yours, she should be able to draft a warning herself to AHPRA. Of course, she needs to read the AHPRA Act in addition to the Disclosure Act you mentioned..
3. She should mentioned the lack of due process that she suffered. The two pillars of due process are the right to be heard and the right to a fair hearing (NATURAL JUSTICE). It is basal to any right to be heard is the right to know the nature of the complaint and the identity of the complainant. That s/be obvious to any rational person.
4. Of course, she should include in her letter that she reserves all her rights.
5. if she wants to engage a lawyer, an expensive and risky undertaking, she must first document her experience in detail. Of course, she needs to shop around for a trustworthy lawyer and ask for a quote or a reasonably accurate cost expectations. Note that most lawyers personally did not oppose any of the measures. And some, in fact, supported them. She must NOT engage that feral lefty Julian Burnside QC in Melbourne. He actually supported the lockdowns and other measures. I have personal "receipts"!
6. In any legal matter, having documented facts is the key to success. Facts engage the law and the judge(s) dictate the outcome.
7. Don't trust any forecast or expectations of success from any lawyer unless that lawyer has a trusted history. To a large extent, lawyers are very expensive taxi-drivers. Note the difference between "should" and "would". Be 95%! on alert if any lawyer uses those two words.
Of course that is unfortunately true. According to the law any blowback would also be a criminal act - looking at what they have done "for the common good" however I wouldn't bet on that stopping them!
Remember this Kissinger dictum:
If it is illegal, we do immediately; if it is unconstitutional, it will take longer.
Law, if it exists, is mainly only effective against NON-INFLUENTIAL private individuals and organisations.
The Supreme Court submission that can be accessed at the link below is lengthy but worth reading. There are reports of AHPRA having driven doctors to suicide and they have never been held accountable. Unfortunately, individuals with the personality disorder known as OCPD tend to rise to the top of such organisations. It's a very serious PD found commonly in serial murderers. They tend to dominate in ethics councils, professional associations and regulatory bodies. Hitler is believed to have had the condition. Overconcern with ethics might have contributed to his vegetarianism and to the Aktion T4 Nazi euthanasia program. Idaho murders suspect Bryan Kohberger also fits the picture. A Royal Commission into AHPRA would not be sufficient. AHPRA needs to be abolished. By contributing to suppression and distortion of factual information, they may have caused untold numbers of deaths. They are a menace to patient and public safety.
Dr William Bay, Supreme Court Application
https://qpp.life/legal
Thank you, well said - I agree completely.
I’m so sorry Dr Sally Price, Dr Chris Neil (and all those esteemed colleagues who have also held their ground) have been subjected to mistreatment by their own governing body - it’s a disgrace. BUT it’s also a defining moment for health care in Australia, and for that I’m grateful. We now know who truly cares for the patient and for the truth, and in my books that’s a massive win.
Are you paying attention to what's happening to Jordan Peterson and his current battle with the Ontario College of Psychologists? Not directly Covid-related, but but it's illustrative of a similar mindset that has taken over many of these regulatory bodies.
Of course! He is in a position to refuse.
I think this - having doctor's who are not prepared to go along with and implement immoral orders remove themselves from office - is exactly what they want, leaving the ones who will blindly and willingly follow any orders.
I noticed this same thing in the US military during the last 10 years. It seems like they're actively trying to push anyone of conscience and conviction out, leaving only the ideologues and the 'follow instructions' functionaries.
However it could simply be a natural phenomena, where bad ideas get amplified and become self-reinforcing within the kinds of giant systems that feature rigid hierarchies, and reward compliance. It's been so efficient at purging the 'thinkers' that it *seems* deliberate, but perhaps it really is just a byproduct of building giant systems of govt/regulation/whatever...
The system gets so big it requires (and demands) adherence to rigid hierarchies of decision making & authority, in order to function.
> Then power is hoarded by people who are very remote from the consequences of organisational decisions.
> Everyone downstream simply obeys the orders from above. The system demands increasing conformity over time, as a byproduct of it's unwieldy size [think: streamlining of workflows that remove options to exercise judgement 'on the ground', and implementation of more top-down rules and guidelines governing how even the smallest things should be done]
> Those who find this stifling, or find themselves in opposition to the rules and guidelines, they become a threat to the functioning of the giant system, which could collapse into chaos if too many reject the rules. Central authority can't lose control so they start purging the 'problems'.
Chuck in a few sociopaths in the central node and you could easily have a naturally arising tyrannical bureaucracy, that didn't have a conscious mission to purge dissidents, but created a structure that has come to require that for it's very survival.
Globalisation and interconnectedness has had a wicked downside: the proliferation of giant power structures — bureaucracies, supra-national orgs, mega-corporations. We need to find ways to break them up and spread the power back outwards (and downwards). A major challenge.
Yes, there was an episode of the Dark Horse podcast saying exactly this about the military too, on which fellow substacker Grant Smith appeared, who has written about this. https://substack.com/profile/74631320-grant-smith?utm_source=about-page
Oh thanks, sounds interesting — I might find that episode and have a listen!
It is in two parts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l5_CU3bRIw and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg_Y7WxfQ48
Thanks very much for the links, as I just had a search and couldn't find the episode!
Much appreciated.
Ideological conformity is the ultimate goal of all totalitarian systems. Nonconformists are strictly forbidden; indeed, they must be terrorised at every turn.
here in the US the Federation of State Medical Boards wields considerable clout as a pharma front organization and apparently has worldwide reach https://odysee.com/@FreeNZ:d/The-Dark-Truth-of-America's-FSMB:f
Goodness me. So much respect for Dr Price. AND she's an integrative doctor of both western/eastern medicine... you don't see many of those in Australia (speaking as an Ayurvedic practitioner). I dare say we are well due to think outside the box in terms of how a parallel economy will work. I do hope there is a vehicle, in due course, that ties us all together so we can get on with living a healthy and productive life. We'll visit the old country now and then with our day visitor pass and see how everybody is doing - probably pack our own lunch.
Thanks for covering this, these stories need to come out
C’mon Aussies, pull together and make some noise. You have folks standing up and putting it on the line. Rally up!
Zzzzzzzzzz
AHPRA, run in part by the recent former PM's wife... A so called regulatory body, who more recently specialises in a more communist style of mis-management, illegal operations, coertion and outright tyranical punishment / censorship of health professionals in Australia. This group are nothing more than an organised crime corporation (yes, like all Aust Gov departments, they have an ABN so they are corporations)..
Obviously Dr Price didnd’t realise she had been licensed to kill and as such she should shut up for to speak the truth is to break the regulatory silence of wrongdoing. Somehow her profession regulates allowing for monopolies, conflicts of interest and doctor behavioural ethic breaches.
Seems there will be no short supply of former actual and moral ex-doctors who will be needed to head up new health agencies that are actual health agencies.
Corrupt filth at a private company.... suing them out of existence is the only solution.... if they are money and corrupt focused (which is obvious) drain their fucking coffers, they threw the first punch and laughed in your face.... 500 direct lawsuits with merit will bury them
It was a very bold and stupid statement AHPRA has put forth in March 2021. It is almost if they thought they were invincible. Maybe they imagined we would have digital money and social credit scores by now. That statement will come back to bite them in the ass hard.
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