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Trevor Price's avatar

Rebekah, I’m struck by how your and Laura’s experiences with medications prescribed to supposedly help treat mental ailments also apply to the physical health and wellbeing space. And of course I’m sure that mental and physical wellbeing are inextricably linked in the first place.

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Rebekah Barnett's avatar

Do you mean in the sense of treating symptoms and applying labels rather than addressing root causes?

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Trevor Price's avatar

In the sense of the business models being essentially the same whether we are talking about conventional modern medicine or mainstream mental health practice. Both seem to me to be based on shaky "scientific" foundations and lead to the creation of medical/pharmaceutical "customers for life" rather than providing help to first maintain wellbeing and, should that fail at any point, to provide effective, non-toxic treatment of mental or physical ailments with a view to restoring the patient to lasting good health as soon as possible. The MO to create this situation via long term capture of medical schools, academic publications, public health institutions, regulators and media etc. has been extremely effective and evilly impressive in equal measure. I am hopeful that the light you and others are shining on these practices is waking more and more people up, and once seen this evil cannot be unseen, but those behind this whole system are very wealthy, powerful and ruthless.

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Rebekah Barnett's avatar

Yes I see what you mean. It’s what I call the “sick care” model, which I think is a better name for the allopathic system than “healthcare.” Useful for acute complaints. Not so useful for achieving well-being.

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Evad's avatar
Jun 15Edited

Excellent, thought provoking article. So many things came to mind as I was reading it.

Many people seem to have FAITH (trust, confidence) medical science in the same way people have FAITH in God.

Humanists will argue this to because false equivalence. They will argue that scientific conjectures are properly testable whereas the existence of God is not.

I do not see all parts of what is described as 'scientific knowledge' to have the same status.

There is a vast difference between the complexity of the human body (and the geosphere, for that matter) and that of falling cannon balls or heated water, for instance and claims made in the realm of climate science and medicine are on far shakier ground.

50 years ago the conventional scientific wisdom (and something humanists would presumably have stood by) was that the Earth was cooling. Twenty years ago that had changed to the planet warming. More recently the phrase 'global warming' has been traded for 'climate change'.

Humanists ( including demigods, Richard Dawkins and Peter Singer) placed their faith in the C19 'vaccine' in early 2021 and made moral accusations on those refusing to take it. Within months the 'vaccine' was revealed to be so leaky and short lasting that a formal redefinition of 'vaccine' was required in order that the injectable substance continue to be rightly called a vaccine.

Physicians of today cringe about the medical beliefs and (hence) recommendations of 100 years ago.

Yet, of course, humanists will have been right behind the medical science of the day.

Worsening the situation still is the involvement of money in science and it's consequent corruption. Scientists are EMPLOYED. They have families and mortgages. Companies guide/fund research and want returns on their investments.

The brain is electro-chemistry and changes of states of mind can be achieved by introducing substances to the body - through mouth and into bloodstream directly. Even eating food can achieve such changes.

But so can exercise (physical and cognitive) and reading a novel, listening to music, hearing a sermon, bloodstream and attending a self help course. Self help is another indu$try, btw.:).

It is problematic to have a large percentage of the population handing the regulation of their mind over to alchemi$t$.

"I know I murdered my neighbour constable but it wasn't my fault. My pharmacy had run out of X (or got the dose of X wrong or my doctor mis-prescribed or ...)".:):):)

I loved your 20 letter word, btw, Rebekah.

This is a HUGE topic.

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Rebekah Barnett's avatar

I agree, huge topic. I very much recommend Laura’s book. I got a lot out of it. Which 20 letter word?

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Evad's avatar

Psychopharmaceutical.

I do agree that much medical behaviour (including, though by no means limited to, sending patients for blood and radiological testing) is driven by fear of litigation. This is a driver in education, too.

We followed the Yanks down the litigation road and it is a monster.

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Marie-Rose's avatar

What a gift it is to have people such as yourself Rebekah and Laura, who honestly and openly, share personal painful experiences. Thank you — I appreciate laying oneself so bare is not an easy thing to do.

It seems that in Australia, alternative practitioners struggle to have a voice in near anything - allopathy does such a great job a denouncing anything but their own style of narrow-minded treatment. I know of no Orthomolecular practitioners here in Australia, and tend to believe, rightly or wrongly, that we are not so much what we EAT, but rather, what we ABSORB. Dysbiosis being so prevalent, starting with lack of maternal foundations due to increasing cesarean sections for the sake of "daylight obstetrics" and the overtures of artifical formula companies claiming to be near the liquid gold of breastmilk. Throw in modern flour, consumption of various sugars and chemicals, and what a mess our guts have become, damaging the gut-brain connection. The chemical industry, procurement of many daily receptalcles being plastic for approx 50-60 years, our allopathic medicine world has done a great deal to throw us out of balance due to their narrow band of knowledge and understanding.

The dietary pyramid of eating was wrong - as now well documented by ketogenic diets and what that can achieve in terms of turning around ill health.

For further info about Low Carb High Fat (LCHF) meals, see "Low Carb Down Under" on Youtube. There is some commentary there of people who swear their psych condition was ameliorated. Mother nature does not get things too wrong......... breastmilk is very high in cholesterol, so necessary for a baby's rapidly growing brain.

Our brains need adequate vitamin and mineral balance yes? Yet with the best of intentions, most people still rely on vegetables grown from modern farming practise which deplete soils, save NPK, and are doused with glyphosate. To understand what glyphosate does to our brains, Stephanie Seneff PhD., can shed some illuminating and shocking insight, including how this chemical agent binds with vaccine adjuvants, affecting the brain.

Doctors skilled in the area of Nutritional and Environmental Medicine (See ACNEM in Australia) address the complexity of a starving brain and the plethora of daily exposure to toxins.

Drinking binding agents such as the powders from organic green leafy vegetables, or spirulina, as chlorella helps bind toxins for elimination - chlorella being the backbone of the green smooties, which are particularly helpful when releasing toxins bound to fat.

There is a sector of Psychiatrists in USA also addressing these oft ignored, but prevalent, multi-factoral issues.

See: https://www.psychiatryredefined.org/about/

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Rebekah Barnett's avatar

I agree the gut connection is way under explored - it certainly was in my case, although to his credit, the GP who first prescribed me antidepressants did also suggest I may have a gluten intolerance (correct, and definitely improved my well-being to remove gluten from my diet) and he sent me for CBT as well. Not so with subsequent prescribing doctors.

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