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SimulationCommander's avatar

A frightening number of "leaders" have never had to do anything but call opponents racist and they don't know what to do when that no longer works.

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ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

They create fake emergences then censor and imprison us.

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Outsider's avatar

Fascist! Nazi!

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Bob McDonald's avatar

FFS you ever done any research Just for the record google Covid is 100% Jewish as is the voice Nazis= Ashkennazi Jew

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Outsider's avatar

Yes I have and even if that is so (albeit over simplified) it doesn't change their objectives with the Voice which I outlined in other comments.

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Outsider's avatar

FFS

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Bob McDonald's avatar

Lol point was show me where the Germans are ?

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Bob McDonald's avatar

You seem a bit skeptical so here is the evidence https://odysee.com/@KyleSeeker:8/jew-vax-proof:3

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Andrew N's avatar

This seems like this is part of the problem seen over the last 3 years someone in a perceived position of "authority" or "expertise" claiming I know what's best for you and if you disagree you are stupid/racist etc.

As Leonard Read has described

FAILURE: Inadequate Development of Self

Every individual is faced with the problem of whom to improve, himself or others. The aim, it seems to me, should be to effect one's own unfolding, the upgrading of one's own consciousness - in short, self-perfection. Those who don't even try or, when trying, find self-perfection too difficult, usually seek to expend their energy on others. Their energy has to find some target. Those who succeed in directing their energy inward - particularly if they be blessed with great energy, like Goethe, for instance - become moral leaders. Those who fail to direct their energy inwardly and let it manifest itself externally - particularly if they be of great energy, like Napoleon, for instance - become immoral leaders. Those who refuse to rule themselves are bent on ruling others. Those who can rule themselves usually have no interest in ruling others.

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Dollyboy's avatar

Outstanding comment.

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Lauren's avatar

I'm a part of the uni that hosted this. We have received emails telling us that voting no does not align with their value of 'Rational Inquiry'.

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Madeleine Love's avatar

Ha! Tell them that you have a 'Rational Theory' about their university.

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ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

You should email the VC and complain - say that this is against bullying and defamation policy. File a lawsuit. Hold these communists to their own standards and watch 'hate speech' be a thing of the past.

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Tony Ryan's avatar

I have campaigned for basic Aboriginal rights for fifty years, ten of these working for government, all of this in a region where we speak local Aboriginal languges rather than English, and Aborigines outnumber whites 4 to one.

Most of my family is Aboriginal and my current role is Researcher on the "Recognition of Aboriginal Law Project" for the Yolngu Nations Assembly Corporation. As one might expect, I have at least a passing familiarity with Aboriginal needs issues, the primary problem being that for 235 years, Aborigines have been forced to negotiate their survival in a foreign language, English. Few in the Northern Territory possess more than the most fundamental greeting style English, which means they are isolated from information on nutrition, hygiene, food toxicity, work ethics, accountability, politics, law, and anything educational.

It is essential that government liaison personnel become fluent in Aboriginal languages, which was pointed out by anthropologist A Elkin 80 years ago, as well as by myself more recently; both of us ignored.

Government refuses to permit basic communication because this would undermine the efficient programme of genocide that has operated since 1975, seriously expedited over the past three years. This explains why the largets funders for the Voice campaign have been BHP and Riotinto mining.

Why am I telling you this?Because my most powerful opposiition is the gang of pseudo-academics and faux Aboriginese who are the architects of the Voice campaign. Why? Because suddenly endowned with the means of communication, plus recognition of Aboriginal law in their own commuinities, these advances would forever sideline the 'Professional Aborigines' of the southern cities. They would then be able to represent themselves.

Unsurprisingly, none of these opportunistic and entitled politicians speak an Aboriginal language, comprehend Aboriginal culture, or have ever consulted with the people of the north or centre. They merely parade themselves at cultural events for photo opportunities.

If the Voice wins, which the Australian Electoral Commission will probably ensure, this will close the gate forever on Aboriginal aspirations and survival.

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Madeleine Love's avatar

Thanks for that backstory. My daughter is really interested in Languages, studying them at Melbourne Uni and intentionally designed her course, sacrificed options, so she could do the Australian Indigenous language subjects. But each time the courses were cancelled. She did have background in a general subject, on how one word becomes one sentence by the addition of many prefixes/suffixes etc, and found it fascinating, but, thwarted. The nearest she's managed is Indonesian.

The thing with The Voice for me, is that I think it's a vehicle that accompanies the massive global techno-totalitarian capture - the digital id, cashless society, smart cities, restricted movement by permit only, climate fear/lockdowns - I am concerned it's a vehicle that's going to be used to that purpose, to shift people into these smart cities. The architects are primarily from that union/green/self identifying marxists (not in the Russian sense) political arm.

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Tony Ryan's avatar

You intuit with amazing accuracy, Madeleine. That is exacty its purpose. Likewise, the NLC was redesigned by Rothschild man Nugget Coombs to kill off consensus and replace it with a top-down bureaucracy.

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Outsider's avatar

💯 this cannot be overstated and there were many who had these concerns who participated in Uluru and those are reflected among the notes to the Statement. We, and I mean ALL human beings in Australia and beyond, are under direct attack in this veritable World War and we're under attack on so many fronts at so many different levels, the Voice is just one angle, the WHO and WEF and ABC and countless others are also assaulting, govern-ments, departments, education, media, science, spiritual warfare, psychopathy, it's full spectrum. There are amazing Originals aware of all this and they need a lot more support all round.

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aux is playing's avatar

There are so many good reasons why "The Voice" fails, and that you and your opinion is not given its proper due is one of them.

I don't and I can't know him personally, I have no reliable way of understanding his true motivations nor what's in his heart, so please forgive me if I am giving him unmerited credit. But Gary Foley, who co-founded Canberra’s Aboriginal Tent Embassy in 1972, said,

“Beware of Blak bourgeoisie trying to sell you a referendum, trying to sell you a shonky proposition called the Voice.”

I hope I am not causing offense - I certainly don't intend to, but here is my take:

This is blackfella country.

In blackfella country, whitefella make whitefella law.

Whitefella law pay no heed to blackfella law - pay no heed to blackfella.

Today: whitefella make whitefella law for blackfella.

Tomorrow: same blackfella country, same whitefella law.

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Outsider's avatar

💯

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💯

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Tony Ryan's avatar

Um... wots dat ting?

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100%. It's an emoticon available on Apple products. One can insert endless types of emoticons ❗️‼️❓💚❤️✅🙏👍😊😂🚀🤝👋 crazy, thousands of them.

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Tony Ryan's avatar

Thanks. I get emoticons but I don't think my eyesight is up to some.

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JakeUrlus's avatar

Spot on, Rebekah.

As a fellow racist idiot(!) let me commend you on your coverage. The polls already purport to show that almost 2/3 of Aussies do not support this change to our founding document; one wonders how much higher that figure might go following revealing own-goals such as this...

How odd hey - that we don't want to abrogate the foundational principle of equality before the law in order to enshrine racial discrimination in our Constitution, that hobble the function of gov't (not that it sometimes shouldn't be hobbled in modern times), at great expense, for a new hierarchy of Canberra-based, self-identified indigenous lobbyists... Racists!

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derrick humphries's avatar

FYI Langton - there are no reputable “fact checkers”.

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Rebekah Barnett's avatar

🎯😂

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George Watts's avatar

On point Rebekah. Let's hope it's a nail in this coffin, and allow us to start focusing on issues which will bring about meaningful change for a majority of people.

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Bob McDonald's avatar

A good start would be to get rid of Paedophiles and traitors out of the so called government .

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aux is playing's avatar

A good start would be to get rid of the so-called government. ;-)

Seriously though, there's nothing worth preserving about it. Is is from leaf to root an incurably rotten and moribund thing, and it blights existence.

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Bob McDonald's avatar

I won't ever argue with that, Ill pick up the tanks grenades and missile launchers and I'll get to work asap, cough cough , lol. It's ok ASIO go back to sleep ..joking of course..sorry CIA their real name ..criminals idiots asswipes.

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aux is playing's avatar

hehe! You won't need tanks, grenades, and missile launchers with a sense of humour like that!

Those fiends and ghouls we are up against are formidably impervious to reason and wisdom, which means they are vulnerable to satire, and with which they may even be mortally wounded.

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Bob McDonald's avatar

Well said thanks for that ..

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Tony Ryan's avatar

ASIO are too busy sewing sequinnes on their new rainbow battle fatigues and designing new codes that incorporate the correct pronouns, to be rounding us up for stacking RPGs on the front lawn. But if they do check us out, it will be in a Hercules trannysport or standing on the roof of an APC swirling rainbow silks. God save the effing queens, nobody else will.

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Sanity Jane's avatar

SHARING ~ That Hillary Moment: a gaffe reported by our friends in Australia 🦘

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Robin Whittle's avatar

Thanks for this and for the link to the CNN discussion on Hilary Clinton's "basket of deplorables" comment. I thought CNN did very well with this and I wish they were as on the ball now with numerous issues, not least the pandemic response and the majority of the population's immune systems being crippled due to inadequate 25-hydroxyvitamin D.

I was not aware of the degree to which some or many proponents of the Indigenous Voice to Parliament argue for it on the basis that it would be a step towards reparations.

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Angus Black's avatar

I reckon that those Tasmanian figures are overblown - we have a large percentage of regional dwellers here (of whom I’m one) and, while I don’t have any (other than anecdotal) evidence this just doesn’t seem to gel with my experience.

People here are focussed on the cost of living, rent/house prices and shortages & medical services...and the farm sector is worried about the forecast drought (my tanks should be overflowing and I’m pumping water from the dam for the garden, buying for the house).

No one seems excited about the referendum is a positive way, usual suspects aside.

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kerrylyn's avatar

A couple of comments: It wouldn't bother me at all if they stopped their "welcome to country" ritual. It's pathetic. Hillary lost election for many reasons, not just basket of deplorables comment, although it may well have clinched the deal. Wondering why Tasmania, a supposedly conservative state, is still on yes side. Maybe because there are no true indigenous people down here?

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Madeleine Love's avatar

On your Tassie theory... Maybe because they're heavier with vicarious guilt (fair or unfair) over the demise of the Indigenous, and voting Yes to 'do something' to assuage it, totally missing the purpose of The Voice. Ditto Victoria.

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Jillian Stirling's avatar

I was born in Tasmania and feel no guilt about the aboriginal population. We didn’t do anything it was the first settlers and they meant well.

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Barry O'Kenyan's avatar

Since I am a grateful immigrant, like O, I feel no guilt.

The wabos - white abos -, pimps and pushers need to have a look - look, not even read - a bit of history.,

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Madeleine Love's avatar

That's you, but I suspect it will be in the general psyche.

The first settlers in Victoria also got on really well with the Indigenous people - Georgiana's Diary is a good insight into this. They all enjoyed being together - the kids played football, pretty much at the MCG where's it's still played now. The sad thing was they died of TB and other diseases brought in, etc. That said, I'm sure the rich ruling psychopaths had ownership goals of the land - the Indigenous didn't know what our rich ruling psychopaths were capable of, but we do, which is why we need to vote No.

PS, on Tassie... one line of my family came out of Tassie - they'd bought land near Deloraine - I wonder if I've been cursed because every time I go to Tassie a disaster happens.

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RFC's avatar

Where can we read Georgiana's diary?

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Madeleine Love's avatar

Any library or bookshop? Oops!

Georgiana's Journal - By Hugh McCrae, one of her descendants

For example, https://www.abebooks.com/book-search/title/georgiana%27s-journal-melbourne-1841-1865/

The book is obviously a selected/edited piece. I think you can read original thing at the State Library of Victoria.

https://find.slv.vic.gov.au/discovery/search?query=any,contains,georgiana%20mccrae%20journal&tab=searchProfile&search_scope=slv_local&vid=61SLV_INST:SLV&offset=0

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Rebekah Barnett's avatar

Yes, I think it was a nail in the coffin for the Clinton campaign, but not the only one by any means.

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ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

For what it's worth my neighbour is an Aboriginal Elder and he says the voice is 'more white blackfella shit' so there's that. He's no fool.

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RFC's avatar

Why are we forced to respect ethnic elders when we don't respect our own? The only commercials that still show majority white people are the ones advertising assisted suicide in Canada.

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Madeleine Love's avatar

Surrogate religion

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ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

F*ck's sake.

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kerrylyn's avatar

... and excellent article, as usual!

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Madeleine Love's avatar

I never minded the Welcome to Country - it was quite nice - right up until it appeared to be a part of a brainwashing-through-constant-repetition program, used for a bigger game, in this case, the splitting of the Australian parliament.

NB: I'm not a TV watcher but if the footy's on I walk out on the WtoC - had more than enough of it.

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RFC's avatar

It's interesting that the Voice is most popular in states with few aborigines.

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Barry O'Kenyan's avatar

How come no one respected those abos who were literally treated like cattle when they were herded into some convid camp?

Where were those pimps and pushers then?

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Madeleine Love's avatar

That's a bit of evidence right there that the Voice proponents based in Melbourne are far more interested serving their marxist enablers than listening to and promoting the varied and multi-political Indigenous voice.

Likewise, when the anti-vaxer Indigenous were protesting with IMOP (Informed Medical Options Party) at Old Parliament House. They were slammed in the media as "Far Right" (obviously).

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Richard Seager's avatar

The "Welcome to Country" has migrated to NZ. It's plain to see what it is as only the Corporates push it. They're forced to due to the requirement to maintain access to capital.

I went searching for historic comments from Marcia Langton that might be racist for the hypocrisy angle. But what I found was that this is what Marcia Langton does. All the time going back at least a decade she has been calling everyone, more or less, racists.

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Jillian Stirling's avatar

That awful Marcia Langton just cemented my opposition to the Voice.

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Barry O'Kenyan's avatar

You have voiced your vote.

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Frances's avatar

My issues with The Voice : There already is a Voice, a govt. agency dedicated exclusively to giving Indigenous people a voice in how they are governed. This is National Indigenous Australian Agency. Would this Agency be dissolved if/when The Voice becomes active. Also, Yes to the Voice assumes that most indigenous people suffer disadvantage and distress and that this will continue indefinitely into the future. Finally, could it be sorted out as to who is and who isn't indigenous.

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F....'s avatar

I Look upon this referendum as a well timed diversion.

What we really ought to be up in arms about is the logic defying pandemic treaty - there's not much time for Australia to get out of this proposed rule by the elite.

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RFC's avatar

To see the future if the Voice passes, look to NZ.

Watch from 1h:07mins: https://youtu.be/3sVpVPYPtCE?si=cGCp1IcahvsAbRg6

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