I don't understand the tag of right wing anymore. I consider One Nation's position as 'common sense, for-the-people' wing. Neither 'right' nor 'left' cover it.
Did you see in the UK, Restore Britain came from nowhere (only registered the party in February) to take all 10 seats in Great Yarmouth in Norfolk County Council elections. They have also had about 100,00 members join already.
I don’t know why you’d call One Nation a right wing party.
Populist, certainly…and, pretty much by definition, that means it represents the views at the centre of the community. I’m seventy now, and there’s almost nothing that ON are promoting that wasn’t standard, middle of the road, thinking during the glory days of the second half of the 20th century… pretty much up until the “land rights for gay whales” movements of the ‘90s.
ON overwhelmingly represents the perpetual sensible centre for Western Civilisation…the rolling insanity of the turn of the millennium is beginning to unravel. At last.
Comments in the qualitative section of the polling data showed that people who support One Nation are generally extremely dissatisfied with the 'uniparty' and see ON as a "corrective force." The motivation is moving away from something that they see as having gone too far: too much globalism, too much uniparty, too much climate green tape, too much immigration. Therefore, the popularity is not arising from the party occupying the cool headed centre, but rather a reactionary opposition to the left being too left and the Coalition not having kept the left in check (bc they were so busy pandering to the left's base).
Well, I think that’s all true - but the Overton window was not shifted radically into lala-land by the noisy elite after canvassing their ideas with the population at large.
I really don’t think middle Australia has moved socially much in my lifetime. Middle Australia has never been politically engaged - if we didn’t have compulsory voting then, just as in England or the USA, 50% would be a decent turnout…consequently most elections are won and lost on the basis of an unanchored 30 day marketing/beauty contest.
You could argue with some validity that it really is our own fault, we could have kept our eyes on the ball…but for most of us the urgent always trumps the important.
we’ve trusted our politicians and institutions to govern from either side of the centre, for all Australians…and we’ve been frogboiled.
People have woken up to the knowledge that the coalition and the ALP/Greens have marched off to the far corner of the beach. From our perspective they do look like a uniparty…and no doubt from their, the sensible centre ground that we’ve been camped on for decades must look like the far right.
But, how can I put this, they are wrong and we are right.
They are waiting for the Libs and Nats to say they are willing to form a coalition government with One Nation included, if that is what the people want.
Of course, merely admitting that that will not easily persuade the One Nation voters to go back to the Coalition before the next election, but maybe then they will more willingly give them their second preference.
I think a lot of people have this attitude to both the Labor and Coalition parties : "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me . . . it's not happening."
It's be really nice if all media/commentators started referring to ON as 'centerist', Labor as far-left/socialist and the Islamist Party (aka Greens) as Islamo-Fascists, all of which would be far more accurate.
I can't comment on individual policies, but I could if I look at ON's web site.
In general, traditionally 'left-wing' is socialist, big State sector, and the State is more embedded in the lives of the citizenry. This can morhp into communism. On the other side, 'right-wing' is laissez-faire capitalism, with a small state sector, minimal controls on business, and less involvement in the private lives of the citizenry. This can morph in to classic Fascism where the State and big business are intertwined. The Greens are currently morphing into a theocratic-fascist party.
We can see the 'horse shoe' effect where the extreme left and right are two cheeks of the same bum.
This leaves everyone else in basically the centre, which is where I see ON. Malcolm Roberts in Senate Estimates has gone after Big State as much as Big Business. Maybe you could call ON 'centre-right', which would make the Libs 'centre-left', and the Nats have always been a mix of left and right - socialise the losses and privatise the profits.
ON believes in a smaller State sector, but still with social welfare for the needy, controls against big business forming monopolies, and a light touch on the lives of the citizenry. I'd say that was the very definition of 'centerist'.
Hi Rebekah why is One Nation 'right wing' or 'left wing' both wings of the same bird? I would have thought at 32.5 per cent polling they would now be mainstream?
That simply isn’t so. The Liberals may have been at the centre of the world as perceived by the “liberal elite”. But anyone not toeing the approved line is cancelled, silenced. The world of the mainstream media simply does not reflect the worldview of the man in the street.
Under Angus Taylor, the Liberals have suddenly regained a connection to the real conversations of the pub and the kitchen table…but the Party face he presents bears no resemblance at all to what we’ve heard over decades from (eg Turnbull, Morrison, Ley or any of the State premiers. The consequence is we don’t trust (a) him or, if he’s actually on the level (b) that he could actually drag the Liberaks if returned to government, to implement the policies he’s now presenting.
Hilarious, the 2 major parties having been morally and intellectually bankrupt for decades are now electorally bankrupt as well and out polled by a braindead bogan with the demeanour of a rusted outdoor corrugated iron shit house and the verbal amenity of it’s squeaky door blowing in the wind.
The Ocker version of Western “democracy” has reached the dementia phase just in time to join it’s decrepit relatives in Western Europe and the US as they move into the looney bin.
Even more amusing is that many of the people posting here think that this walking embarrassment could fix something. Ok, western leadership stock is pretty low, but can they actually picture this incoherent ass representing the country?
You get the government you deserve, but in this country , like the rest of the western world the choice is like buying socks in a 2 buck shop. “But at least we have a choice” I hear the bogans mutter through gritted teeth.
This news puts my faith back in Australians intellect, post covid, where over 90% of our population rolled up their sleeves and donned masks. The globalist puppet Albo will not go down without their support.
Come on Australia, it’s time to turn away from the 2 majors elect One Nation. It seems that Pauline and Barnaby are the leaders that can get our country back on track.
The biggest con the lefty socialist pulled off is the term right wing.
They got that associated with fascist Nazism thing gong. Pauline was often characterised with that 4 sided emblem back when she 1st gained national attention.
Perversely, Nazism is self described as National Socialism, by themselves, in all the old newsprint.
What’s wrong with being a Zionist? Don’t Jewish people deserve a homeland like Americans, Australians, the English, Mexicans, Saudi Arabians, Egyptians, Sweeds etc. etc. etc.
Their homeland is Israel and they should be left alone there to live in peace.
Antisemitism is vulgar and a blight on humanity. Don’t fall for the unintelligent bile spewed by the left wing, pink-haired socialists, Shane Mac. Think for yourself.
“A Zionist is a person who supports Zionism—a nationalist and political movement originally advocating for the creation, and now the support and protection, of a Jewish homeland in the historic region of Palestine. The term stems from "Zion," a hill in ancient Jerusalem central to Jewish history.”
I don't understand the tag of right wing anymore. I consider One Nation's position as 'common sense, for-the-people' wing. Neither 'right' nor 'left' cover it.
Did you see in the UK, Restore Britain came from nowhere (only registered the party in February) to take all 10 seats in Great Yarmouth in Norfolk County Council elections. They have also had about 100,00 members join already.
This is a very interesting dynamic. Definitely a signal the usual 'teal' party like Reform in the UK and the Teals in Aus, aren't the answer
I don’t know why you’d call One Nation a right wing party.
Populist, certainly…and, pretty much by definition, that means it represents the views at the centre of the community. I’m seventy now, and there’s almost nothing that ON are promoting that wasn’t standard, middle of the road, thinking during the glory days of the second half of the 20th century… pretty much up until the “land rights for gay whales” movements of the ‘90s.
ON overwhelmingly represents the perpetual sensible centre for Western Civilisation…the rolling insanity of the turn of the millennium is beginning to unravel. At last.
Hi Angus,
Comments in the qualitative section of the polling data showed that people who support One Nation are generally extremely dissatisfied with the 'uniparty' and see ON as a "corrective force." The motivation is moving away from something that they see as having gone too far: too much globalism, too much uniparty, too much climate green tape, too much immigration. Therefore, the popularity is not arising from the party occupying the cool headed centre, but rather a reactionary opposition to the left being too left and the Coalition not having kept the left in check (bc they were so busy pandering to the left's base).
Well, I think that’s all true - but the Overton window was not shifted radically into lala-land by the noisy elite after canvassing their ideas with the population at large.
I really don’t think middle Australia has moved socially much in my lifetime. Middle Australia has never been politically engaged - if we didn’t have compulsory voting then, just as in England or the USA, 50% would be a decent turnout…consequently most elections are won and lost on the basis of an unanchored 30 day marketing/beauty contest.
You could argue with some validity that it really is our own fault, we could have kept our eyes on the ball…but for most of us the urgent always trumps the important.
we’ve trusted our politicians and institutions to govern from either side of the centre, for all Australians…and we’ve been frogboiled.
People have woken up to the knowledge that the coalition and the ALP/Greens have marched off to the far corner of the beach. From our perspective they do look like a uniparty…and no doubt from their, the sensible centre ground that we’ve been camped on for decades must look like the far right.
But, how can I put this, they are wrong and we are right.
All fair points. I just don't think any of that is indicative that ON is not a right-wing party.
They are waiting for the Libs and Nats to say they are willing to form a coalition government with One Nation included, if that is what the people want.
Of course, merely admitting that that will not easily persuade the One Nation voters to go back to the Coalition before the next election, but maybe then they will more willingly give them their second preference.
I think a lot of people have this attitude to both the Labor and Coalition parties : "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me . . . it's not happening."
Not "Right Wing"; just "Right for Australia"!
stuff em!!!!!!
they had their chance and their day in the sun, enough already. We are done with all the lies and BS.
It's be really nice if all media/commentators started referring to ON as 'centerist', Labor as far-left/socialist and the Islamist Party (aka Greens) as Islamo-Fascists, all of which would be far more accurate.
Hi Bryan, What ON policies do you believe are centrist?
I can't comment on individual policies, but I could if I look at ON's web site.
In general, traditionally 'left-wing' is socialist, big State sector, and the State is more embedded in the lives of the citizenry. This can morhp into communism. On the other side, 'right-wing' is laissez-faire capitalism, with a small state sector, minimal controls on business, and less involvement in the private lives of the citizenry. This can morph in to classic Fascism where the State and big business are intertwined. The Greens are currently morphing into a theocratic-fascist party.
We can see the 'horse shoe' effect where the extreme left and right are two cheeks of the same bum.
This leaves everyone else in basically the centre, which is where I see ON. Malcolm Roberts in Senate Estimates has gone after Big State as much as Big Business. Maybe you could call ON 'centre-right', which would make the Libs 'centre-left', and the Nats have always been a mix of left and right - socialise the losses and privatise the profits.
ON believes in a smaller State sector, but still with social welfare for the needy, controls against big business forming monopolies, and a light touch on the lives of the citizenry. I'd say that was the very definition of 'centerist'.
Hi Rebekah why is One Nation 'right wing' or 'left wing' both wings of the same bird? I would have thought at 32.5 per cent polling they would now be mainstream?
Rob
Hi Robert, you seem to be following the logic:
Right-wing is unpopular
One Nation is doing well at polls
Therefore, One Nation must not be right-wing
The implication is that whatever is popular is at the centre.
However, the Coalition is unpopular precisely because it’s become too centrist and is not representing conservative values properly.
Polling feedback showed that people are sick of the 'uniparty' and One Nation was seen as a "corrective force."
That simply isn’t so. The Liberals may have been at the centre of the world as perceived by the “liberal elite”. But anyone not toeing the approved line is cancelled, silenced. The world of the mainstream media simply does not reflect the worldview of the man in the street.
Under Angus Taylor, the Liberals have suddenly regained a connection to the real conversations of the pub and the kitchen table…but the Party face he presents bears no resemblance at all to what we’ve heard over decades from (eg Turnbull, Morrison, Ley or any of the State premiers. The consequence is we don’t trust (a) him or, if he’s actually on the level (b) that he could actually drag the Liberaks if returned to government, to implement the policies he’s now presenting.
Hilarious, the 2 major parties having been morally and intellectually bankrupt for decades are now electorally bankrupt as well and out polled by a braindead bogan with the demeanour of a rusted outdoor corrugated iron shit house and the verbal amenity of it’s squeaky door blowing in the wind.
The Ocker version of Western “democracy” has reached the dementia phase just in time to join it’s decrepit relatives in Western Europe and the US as they move into the looney bin.
Even more amusing is that many of the people posting here think that this walking embarrassment could fix something. Ok, western leadership stock is pretty low, but can they actually picture this incoherent ass representing the country?
You get the government you deserve, but in this country , like the rest of the western world the choice is like buying socks in a 2 buck shop. “But at least we have a choice” I hear the bogans mutter through gritted teeth.
Maybe they’re not Right Wing, after all
If I were going to found a new political party, I think I'd call it 'Return to Sanity'.
This news puts my faith back in Australians intellect, post covid, where over 90% of our population rolled up their sleeves and donned masks. The globalist puppet Albo will not go down without their support.
Come on Australia, it’s time to turn away from the 2 majors elect One Nation. It seems that Pauline and Barnaby are the leaders that can get our country back on track.
A pity Pauline is so uninformed and inarticulate.
The biggest con the lefty socialist pulled off is the term right wing.
They got that associated with fascist Nazism thing gong. Pauline was often characterised with that 4 sided emblem back when she 1st gained national attention.
Perversely, Nazism is self described as National Socialism, by themselves, in all the old newsprint.
I think you can be right-wing without being a Nazi! But I take the point that media treat the two as the same, which is obviously silly.
Interesting. Similar happening in UK and Shermany.
Sportsbet prices for next election:
ALP 1.52
LP/NP 3.60
OTHER 7.50
“Right Wing”? Can we say “Right of the others” and perhaps right of centre.
Want Zionist taking our country like they have in the USA, vote one nation. There are no good parties, only people.
What’s wrong with being a Zionist? Don’t Jewish people deserve a homeland like Americans, Australians, the English, Mexicans, Saudi Arabians, Egyptians, Sweeds etc. etc. etc.
Their homeland is Israel and they should be left alone there to live in peace.
Antisemitism is vulgar and a blight on humanity. Don’t fall for the unintelligent bile spewed by the left wing, pink-haired socialists, Shane Mac. Think for yourself.
If it has to be explained to you , then you are too dumb to understand the answer.
I see Zionism as corporatism and is not part of Judaism. I would suggest plenty of Jews don`t support Zionism.
AI says:
“A Zionist is a person who supports Zionism—a nationalist and political movement originally advocating for the creation, and now the support and protection, of a Jewish homeland in the historic region of Palestine. The term stems from "Zion," a hill in ancient Jerusalem central to Jewish history.”