'Reparations, land back, paid rent' - prominent Yes campaigner says the quiet part out loud
The Voice is purely an advisory board and will not have powers to veto laws, though they are supposedly able to influence legislation. Supposedly.
The Voice would be an elected group charged with advocating Indigenous interests to Parliament, but would not have a vote on laws. In other words, a snow job, a charade, a sham that purports to be democratic and dissimulates endorsement of the will of the Aboriginal people, but does no such thing. One and the same as the rest of Parliament, and the Australian "Democracy" with respect to the will of the Australian: it's a total betrayal. The will of the Australian people is irrelevant to the Australian government and has absolutely no bearing on policy.
Long-term activist and elder Gary Foley, who co-founded Canberra’s Aboriginal Tent Embassy in 1972, has said, “I want you to think; think before you vote. Make sure that you’re not being manoeuvred into a position of being complicit in the latest of a long line of cosmetic bullshit measures that will achieve nothing in the way of justice [for Aboriginal people].”
Victorian Greens Senator Lidia Thorpe told the crowd [at Melbourne’s Invasion Day rally] Australia had been at war with Aboriginal people since 1788.
“What do we have to celebrate in this country? Do we want to become advisors now? Do we want to become an advisory body to the colonial system?”
In Sydney, Gomeroi man Ian Brown said he had no trust in a Voice to parliament because it would be “another formal process of government not listening to mob”.
Activist co-organiser of Melbourne’s Invasion Day rally and Victorian Greens Senator Lidia Thorpe's sister, Meriki Onus says. "If people don’t trust Voice, it’s because they don’t trust governments."
And neither should anyone ever again.
First nations are being used as proxies by global oiler banker corporation oligarchs, for whom the Australian government truly works and whose interests government only ever serves.
This Voice malarkey simply creates another government department needing more government officers and administration and bureaucracy. It co-opts some Aboriginals into the government to give the government a veneer of legitimacy in its rulings on indigenous Australians, however phoney and thin. It is a far simpler job to deceive the few government-captured Aborigines from the city with an urban middle class background, and then make their underhanded agreements the official word, than it is to convince all First Nationals.
Gary Foley has also said, “Beware of Blak bourgeoisie trying to sell you a referendum, trying to sell you a shonky proposition called the Voice.”
Here is a super simple rule of thumb to live by:
Your automatic/instinctive response to ANYTHING the government of the day (regardless of political persuasion) puts forward should be a firm and vocal NO.
If the government tries to intimidate you or call you names, you should know that your decision to say no was DEFINITELY the correct one.
At that time, you should move from passively opposing to actively working your backside off to ENSURE that proposal by the government FAILS (and ideally fails spectacularly!)
We are there now when it comes to the voice...
Didn't Pelosi say "we have to pass it to see what's in it?"
Seems to be a lot of that nowadays. Thanks Rebekah.
(Relatedly, I applied to work in the state counting centre graveyard shift for the referendum but still no response. They probably, for once, did their due diligence and the response was: abort! abort!)
Definitely a Trojan horse...
Well... if they support it (Pfizer and other corporations like RioTinto etc.), that confirms it's to enhance corporate power, and not help indigenous at all...
As it's a change to our constitution, and NO details are given... They could use the voice to write up literally "anything", and use it as a backdoor to over ride our rights, our land our minerals, basically anything (and it will all be "constitutional" as we agreed to something with NO details disclosed!)
If corporations are pushing "yes", there's definitely a hidden agenda of benefit for them, and not our indigenous people.
I believe in greater inclusion of Indigenous voices in our cultural discourse, and I like to believe there is a lot of good faith behind the majority of the support for the Voice. Unfortunately there was also a lot of good faith behind the majority those who supported the Jibby Jab mandates, because the majority of people still seem almost wilfully naive to how completely corrupted our institutions are and how accomplished they have become at hijacking good intentions. With almost all of the prominent names backing it revealing themselves to be self-evident globalists/marxists, it is becoming increasingly hard to put forward any defence for a Yes vote.
The blank cheque aspect is an absolute insult to everyone. We have to know exactly what is going to be said in the constitution AND exactly what infrastructure will be created or adapted to fulfill “the Voice”. We have to know exactly how this is going to work before we vote for it. While there is no details, every intelligent person should vote no.
Of course it’s a Trojan Horse. George Christensen had a brilliant piece the other day. It a really bad idea with very dangerous consequences.
I am originally from Germany, lived in NZ from 1992 - 2018, and lived the last five years in Australia. I did a lap around Australia for 1.5 years and fell in love with the land. First in NZ, and now in Australia, I have what life coaches call "the clarity of distance". I am not very affected or biased by the emotional history between the colonial forces and indigenous people.
In the early to mid 1990ties, there was a lot of friction between NZ Māori and the rest of the country. I happened to settle and run a tourist business in an area with 90% Māori population. It also happened that I, my family and my business somehow ended up as the ham in a sandwich in land-occupying Maori protest. I experienced the relatively rare situation for a white person to be in a minority, relatively powerless and a victim of racial abuse by some Maori activists. The vast majority of my Maori neighbors had been nothing but amazing, welcoming and supportive of us for the four preceding years. My young son went to the Maori kindergarten, Kohanga Reo, and spoke better Maori than English at the time.
But the activists not only destroyed my business and contributed to the end of my marriage, but a car load of them, each over six foot tall and approx. 120 kg's heavy, with full facial tattoos, came to my property and threatened in front of my small children to burn my house and business down if I didn't stop talking to the media. That's when my then-wife and the children left for white conservative Napier, Hawkes Bay, and I can't blame her.
I was also chased down by a mob in cars on the main street of Wairoa and had to seek refuge at the police station. Which wasn't much of a refuge as the activists returned and told the police officer "to fuck off from their land." The police officers just stood there doing nothing because they were ordered to do nothing by the government, as a cop friend told me a few days later, hugely upset and embarrassed.
The activists had occupied the campground of the Lake Waikaremoana National Park for over three months. They drove off every tourist, local or international, and entered the campground grocery shop with machetes to help themselves with free food. I owned a backpacker's hostel about 60 km away and operated the Urewera Shuttle Service, shuttling backpackers and locals to this stunningly beautiful lake.
On my last ever trip, I had two young Scandinavian and Japanese couples in the van. I rounded a corner in the dense bush and found a tree trunk blocking the road. I stopped, and out of the bush came a handful of big scary-looking Maori activists, one of them the famous Tama Iti, who was also an Maori artist. He later would become an international celebrity flown around the world by wealthy supporters.
(I love this song). He opened the sliding door and stared at all of us without saying a word. He knew very well that his fully tattooed face was more intimidating than any words he could say. The faces of the young tourists turned to a "whiter shade of pale". After what felt like an eternity, he said: "You are not ever coming back here to our land." This was on State Highway 50. A national road.
This was just one of many similar stories that hit the headlines of all national papers and TV stations at the time. Jenny Shipley, the first unelected female prime minister of NZ (no, it wasn't Helen Clark) had just dethroned Jim Bolgers. And she decided not to do anything about this anarchy. It was just one of several Māori land occupations at that time. It ruined my family. Tourists didn't come back to the area for years. We worked hard to establish the business from scratch to make Tipi Backpackers one of the highest-rated hostels in New Zealand. Our local Maori friends mourned with us. Worse, I couldn't join my family in Napier because the business was unsellable. The hostel actually did burn down a year later when I was in Germany, but an insurance investigation ruled out any Māori activist connection. But that is a story for another day. I also did a bi-cultural three-year psychotherapy diploma after that and spent a lot of time in Maori meetinghouses and learned a lot about the culture and developed a deep love for Maori culture. I am telling this story to give you an impression of how tense the relationship between Pakeha (the visitors) and Maori activists was at the time. It makes me sort of chuckle when I listen to the concerns of some of my Australian friends fearing an indigenous people uprising.
A few years later, the NZ government decided to fully compensate and settle all historical grievances with Maori for good. White New Zealanders were very wary and anxious about it at the time. Basically, over a period of about 20 years, every iwi (tribe) could lodge a claim of what was stolen from them, dating back to the first white people arriving. They were all compensated. It cost billions of dollars. If they couldn't give back the land, for example, because an airport was built on it since then (like in Napier), they negotiated some other compensation, be it rent, other lands, or money. It took 20
years and the difference it made was amazing.
When I left in 2018, there was peace. All protests stopped, and white people and Maori came closer than ever in the history of NZ. Sadly, some Maori elders abused their new power and were corrupt and funnelled the newfound riches to their families only and the vast majority of the iwi missed out. But the majority put the money to very good use, and a new proud, confident and well-educated Maori generation prospered that sees themselves as equal and respected and part of a united New Zealand.
In turn, most white people in NZ are proud of and embrace Maori culture and language.
However, lately, pushed by the woke Marxist NZ labor party, things got a bit weird. A big push for central planning (Three Waters etc.) is taking place in the name of Māori governance. Some claim Māori are used to push a Marxist agenda. This brings us to Australia.
I spoke to some farmers today about the July1 Heritage Act changes. They are very worried that it can be weaponsied easily.
Pay the rent? on what exactly? at what rate? where to? who benefits? Voluntary (bwahahahahaha)?
If Jacinta Price, a Pollie with connections to Aboriginals by birth and by representation, says its a bad idea, then it is a bad idea.
Yes. Yes it is.
Thanks Rebekah. Interesting initiative. Hopefully lead to an improvement for the Indigenous people's conditions & status,
I have only one question: What language will the Voice to Parliament speak?
If your answer is English, how is this not a prime example of 21st century neo-colonialism, where the colonial power strips its native subjects of the heart of their culture: Australia's 370+ languages and dialects?
Notice the parliament never stoops to learn so much as one of those languages, so as to truly listen to the real voices of the poor and disenfranchised in Aboriginal communities?
An English 'Voice' is still a colonial voice.
Fantastic tool, thank you again Rebekah 💛
1. Rent should be paid by the government from the taxes and duties the homeowners paid to them.
2. This could be a way for Australia to escape the overreach by the globalists, UN and WHO.
I see a politician, I see a liar.
I will pursue options to retire overseas permanently (gaining citizenship in another country) if this Voice gets through. There has never been a successful country in the history of humanity that treats people unequally according to race. I have no desire to live in a country that is already being brought to it's knees with woke ideology and a suicidal energy and transport policy (eventual mandated EVs), only to be treated as a third class citizen below other citizens who I have paid handsomely via my taxes for decades and who already receive preferential treatment and exclusive advantages such as scholarships not available to the rest of us. If anything, if anyone owes anybody anything, they should be paying us for the quality of life we have provided to them versus the quality of life they would still have today had there been no settlement. It's despicable, disgusting, insulting and I won't have a bar of it. Maybe that is the plan - to have millions of Aussies leave the country for good.