Exactly right, Rebekah. People who state the claims have been ‘debunked’ apparently still think all official claims are necessarily true. An extraordinary worldview, given recent events. While everyday people might think like that (really?? Why??), journalists certainly shouldn’t. A nice piece, as usual. Thanks.
I have just been an excellent book, "The Socratic Method", summarising Socrates' approach to questioning, knowledge, wisdom, and the pursuit of truth.
I cannot think of one profession (journalism, medicine, law, science, psychology, et al) where the Socratic method has not been sacrificed at the altar of big business or "woke" ideology.
Gareth, I don’t think that the people in those professions would have the time available to worry about learning or applying the ‘Socratic Method’ - they are much too busy counting their thirty pieces of silver!
As per the TGA’s own 2024 product documentation: “Neither genotoxicity nor carcinogenicity studies were performed". So not really debunked then? "The components of COMIRNATY (lipids and mRNA) are not expected to have genotoxic potential.” So, they expect everything is awesome. And even though they measure the specific level of DNA contamination, they say it doesn't exist.
Didn't I read in one of your earlier posts that the WA Premier is the ex-Health Minister ? If so, he's not exactly a disinterested party in finding the "truth".
How would all these 'debunkers' of the Government know, they didn't have to take the poison. Or Did they know beforehand? If the media people had a remnant of brains, they would start to think about that.
I'm not sure where the idea comes from that government didn't have to take it. It's sort of half true in that politicians weren't sacked like everyone else if they didn't get jabbed, but they couldn't enter Parliament House without proof of vaccination. As for public servants, some government departments weren't mandated but others were. I know in Victoria politicians were completely exempt but the states all had different rules on this.
I heard Morrison exempting the Canberra crowd at the time when stating that the vax is voluntary. Malcolm Roberts confirmed that they are all unvaccinated. Later Morrison instructed the States differently, probably pushed by the globalists. I am in Victoria and know government staffers who were exempt.
The workplace is a whore house in which people trade morality for cash.
This can be taken for granted.
I watched the clip of the council meeting and offer the following observations. The mayor conducted himself relatively honourably, though I'd have thought no less of him had someone passed him a strawberry.:)
The Indian woman who spoke against the motion showed courage.
The assertion she made that it was not part of the council's charter/brief to get involved with health matters was interesting. In Melbourne I recall the Yarra City Council actively promoting gay marriage back in 2017. I also recall driving past a large roadside sign in the Knox shire which read: "Knox says no to domestic violence". There is a clear precedence for councils dealing with extraneous issues, although it is not clear that it is appropriate, per se.
If I claim that MRNA jabs MAY or CAN cause cancer, it seems a very minimal claim that is almost impossible to debunk. It is like claiming that product X CAN cause pain relief or that it can reduce pain by up to 50%. This is similarly nigh on impossible to disprove because it is extremely minimal ...is saying virtually nothing.
In the absence of QUALITY HARD DATA we are nowhere. Anecdotes carry only so much weight. They are vulnerable to accusations of cherry picking.
Nice observations. I agree about the courage of speaking against the majority - it’s a shame that is so rare these days in many places where it should not be rare. Her suggestions, however, that councils ought not be concerned with health matters are unconvincing: all local government bodies have health departments of some kind, make inspections of unhealthy practices, etc. It is part of their role.
Regarding the substantive issue of DNA contamination, hard data may not be available for a while, as conditions take time to develop, but that does not justify doing nothing. The contamination is indisputable, having now been found by competent scientific scrutiny in several places (and apparently concealed by the manufacturers).
Australia has laws about gene technology regulation, well known to both manufacturers and our TGA, which were clearly ignored (I.e., flouted) in the rush to approve the ‘vaccines’. The laws demand hard data be available before considering drugs for general use, as a sensible precaution. AstraZeneca did this, while Pfizer and Moderna did not.
This is indefensible and bravo to the Port Hedland Council for calling it out.
(I am aware of course that AstraZeneca ‘vaccines’ were - quietly - removed from use for different safety reasons).
I think the notion that anecdotes (qualitative) are more prone to cherry picking than hard (quantitative) data is a fallacy. This should be obvious from the Covid era. Both are important for creating a full picture, if treated properly in the pursuit of truth.
Shouldn't we all just submit the government and media responses to the Port Hedland story, en masse to the Federal Government's misinformation system? It's always fun to beat them at their own game... 😂 Increasing the base of professional input on this issue wouldn't hurt either, with the explosion of cancer and other problems not to mention the ongoing excess death phenomena in this country. Answers needed. We're not stopping until we get them...
Exactly right, Rebekah. People who state the claims have been ‘debunked’ apparently still think all official claims are necessarily true. An extraordinary worldview, given recent events. While everyday people might think like that (really?? Why??), journalists certainly shouldn’t. A nice piece, as usual. Thanks.
Rebekah could not exist in paid employment at a msm outlet.
I have just been an excellent book, "The Socratic Method", summarising Socrates' approach to questioning, knowledge, wisdom, and the pursuit of truth.
I cannot think of one profession (journalism, medicine, law, science, psychology, et al) where the Socratic method has not been sacrificed at the altar of big business or "woke" ideology.
Truth is the casualty.
Gareth, I don’t think that the people in those professions would have the time available to worry about learning or applying the ‘Socratic Method’ - they are much too busy counting their thirty pieces of silver!
Sacrificed for wokeness or for $$$$? Lots of people are in unsatisfying paid employment just surviving ...including (though by no means restricted to)
doctors, teachers, journeys, lawyers, architects. Not much opportunity for creativity, honesty and authenticity.
As per the TGA’s own 2024 product documentation: “Neither genotoxicity nor carcinogenicity studies were performed". So not really debunked then? "The components of COMIRNATY (lipids and mRNA) are not expected to have genotoxic potential.” So, they expect everything is awesome. And even though they measure the specific level of DNA contamination, they say it doesn't exist.
"So, they expect everything is awesome." That's pretty much it!
Love your work RB. Worth every penny and more.
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Didn't I read in one of your earlier posts that the WA Premier is the ex-Health Minister ? If so, he's not exactly a disinterested party in finding the "truth".
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Nice of Adshead to confirm that he is not a serious person
Sadhead?
Big story
Gardasil also had DNA contamination
https://open.substack.com/pub/maryannedemasi/p/fda-ignored-residual-dna-fragments
I was amazed to read this yesterday!
How would all these 'debunkers' of the Government know, they didn't have to take the poison. Or Did they know beforehand? If the media people had a remnant of brains, they would start to think about that.
I'm not sure where the idea comes from that government didn't have to take it. It's sort of half true in that politicians weren't sacked like everyone else if they didn't get jabbed, but they couldn't enter Parliament House without proof of vaccination. As for public servants, some government departments weren't mandated but others were. I know in Victoria politicians were completely exempt but the states all had different rules on this.
I heard Morrison exempting the Canberra crowd at the time when stating that the vax is voluntary. Malcolm Roberts confirmed that they are all unvaccinated. Later Morrison instructed the States differently, probably pushed by the globalists. I am in Victoria and know government staffers who were exempt.
Ah yes that rings a bell, thank you.
The workplace is a whore house in which people trade morality for cash.
This can be taken for granted.
I watched the clip of the council meeting and offer the following observations. The mayor conducted himself relatively honourably, though I'd have thought no less of him had someone passed him a strawberry.:)
The Indian woman who spoke against the motion showed courage.
The assertion she made that it was not part of the council's charter/brief to get involved with health matters was interesting. In Melbourne I recall the Yarra City Council actively promoting gay marriage back in 2017. I also recall driving past a large roadside sign in the Knox shire which read: "Knox says no to domestic violence". There is a clear precedence for councils dealing with extraneous issues, although it is not clear that it is appropriate, per se.
If I claim that MRNA jabs MAY or CAN cause cancer, it seems a very minimal claim that is almost impossible to debunk. It is like claiming that product X CAN cause pain relief or that it can reduce pain by up to 50%. This is similarly nigh on impossible to disprove because it is extremely minimal ...is saying virtually nothing.
In the absence of QUALITY HARD DATA we are nowhere. Anecdotes carry only so much weight. They are vulnerable to accusations of cherry picking.
Nice observations. I agree about the courage of speaking against the majority - it’s a shame that is so rare these days in many places where it should not be rare. Her suggestions, however, that councils ought not be concerned with health matters are unconvincing: all local government bodies have health departments of some kind, make inspections of unhealthy practices, etc. It is part of their role.
Regarding the substantive issue of DNA contamination, hard data may not be available for a while, as conditions take time to develop, but that does not justify doing nothing. The contamination is indisputable, having now been found by competent scientific scrutiny in several places (and apparently concealed by the manufacturers).
Australia has laws about gene technology regulation, well known to both manufacturers and our TGA, which were clearly ignored (I.e., flouted) in the rush to approve the ‘vaccines’. The laws demand hard data be available before considering drugs for general use, as a sensible precaution. AstraZeneca did this, while Pfizer and Moderna did not.
This is indefensible and bravo to the Port Hedland Council for calling it out.
(I am aware of course that AstraZeneca ‘vaccines’ were - quietly - removed from use for different safety reasons).
I think the notion that anecdotes (qualitative) are more prone to cherry picking than hard (quantitative) data is a fallacy. This should be obvious from the Covid era. Both are important for creating a full picture, if treated properly in the pursuit of truth.
Shouldn't we all just submit the government and media responses to the Port Hedland story, en masse to the Federal Government's misinformation system? It's always fun to beat them at their own game... 😂 Increasing the base of professional input on this issue wouldn't hurt either, with the explosion of cancer and other problems not to mention the ongoing excess death phenomena in this country. Answers needed. We're not stopping until we get them...
Ah yes the Labor Party has a portal for disinformation reports https://alp.org.au/disinformation-reporting/
I predict their "debunking" narratives will sound more and more bizarre than standard "conspiracy theories".