Nice summary of what’s going on Rebekah. One Nation are a growing force. A force that is getting my vote. They are the only party that want to keep Australia Australian. I hope every Australian wants to conserve the traditional Australian way of life and joins me in voting for them too.
I urge everyone to look up their party website and read their policies. Common sense is their theme.
I’m still not convinced. I see a lot of protest voting, not so much loyalty voting.
Like many Australians I’ve had enough of the majors, and will most likely never vote for them again. But One Nation doesn’t strike me as a complete party yet with a proper democratic constitution. Their voting history is also confusing, and despite often taking a libertarian outlook, they are a little too fond of surveillance legislation for my liking.
They are closer to ‘complete’ than they’ve ever been and are determinedly working to become a major player. The only way that can happen is for people to vote for them.
I believe they have now broken through the obstacles put in place by the uni-party. It’s just a matter of everyone else believing it too and voting for them - the sky’s the limit.
I don’t think it’s protest voting. I think that’s underestimating the intelligence of the Australians that are changing their vote.
With regard to your ‘democratic constitution’ comment, I encourage you to get on their website and have a good look. They are refining their platform and are clear in what they stand for whether you like it or not.
And their voting history….well, that’s politics I guess. When you’re a minor party trying to get some points on the board, sometimes you’ve got to give a bit to things you don’t necessarily agree with. As they grow, I’m sure you can see their power shifts in their direction. As proof in the pudding, they are now getting preferences from the Libs! Who would have thunk it.
You lost me on “voting history” Dale. That’s actually the only thing that matters - integrity.
One Nation have historically supported the ASIO legislation (let’s see how they vote today), they supported the Hate Crimes bill until public pressure forced them to pivot, and also the metadata retention laws. There are more of course, but these 3 alone demonstrate that ON aren’t consistently pro freedom and Australia first.
It’s a good sign that they were willing to pivot and listen to the voters. The issue arises of who is the best party to vote for that will make the best changes for Australians - remembering that no party is ever going to be perfect. IMO there is no other party other than One Nation that has a glimmer of a chance of doing that.
It’s also worth remembering that we don’t have to vote for a party. Independents that aren’t tied to party politics are a much better option for voters in my view. MPs must be free to represent their constituents, rather than their Parties.
Great rundown Rebekah, except for calling the Teals (who are not at all independent) "fiscally conservative". Anyone that supports the net zero expenditure - Snowy 2.0 to the Orana REZ and the next great drainer of taxpayer funds after VNI West the Walcha to Bayswater transmission line - is anything but fiscally conservative. They believe that money grows on trees - and it is OK to bulldoze the same trees - koalas and all! Yes, I am one of the couple of hundred thousand regional Aussies fighting Govco for my home & community, in Barnaby's electorate. Go One Nation.
Well written Rebekah. Now One Nation has taken the seat of Farrer, many people will be encouraged to vote One Nation. The slurs from the opposition and the media don't work anymore. People are not as scared to vote differently now, they can see a One Nation rise and want to jump on the bus.
If the 2 majors (if that's what you still want to call them) can't manage the country well, we'll look for alternatives. Labor and the Coalition have been exposed as a Uni-party, and I for one will enjoy seeing their demise.
I'd love to think ON was our answer but I have my doubts. Let's not forgot that Barnaby was the Deputy PM during the worst Covid years ('21-'22) and did sweet FA for those of us rallying against the tyranny and breach of civil rights. He also looks like a chronic boozer, not a good start. And Pauline is hardly one to instill real optimism IMO...too many stunts, not enough grey matter or substance.
BUT if their surge in popularity, opens the door to minors like Gerard Rennick and his PFP then I'm all in. Anything to overturn the majors and while we're there, drive a stake into the dangerous Greens/Teal lobby.
Joyce does not inspire inspiration in me either and I agree that fewer stunts and more hard policy is a better approach - although one wonders if Pauline would have had such cut-through without the stunts, to be honest.
Yes, I totally agree. Malcolm Roberts, Gerard Rennick and Alex Antic are all competent and ready to assume ministerial roles in a new three-way coaltion government - all way more qualified than Sussan Ley that the delusional faction bosses and power brokers in the Liberal Party thought fit to offer to us as alternative PM material . . .NOT!!!
Labor didn't contest Farrer because Albanese didn't want to risk a poor showing particularly pre-budget and Labor correctly predicted the Coalition would receive a drubbing against ONE Nation proving that the Coalition is in terminal decline.
The two-party preferred voting system is the biggest impediment to serious political change in this country, and yet I never hear any of the minor parties calling for it to be replaced. New Zealand adopted proportional voting in 1996 after a 1993 referendum. That's what we need to push for.
The “free choice forced vaccination programme” ended me contemplating ever voting liberal/national again. I’ll vote Green before ticking Liberal/National. Changing their positions now only because they’re facing electoral oblivion exemplifies their spinelessness. Do the decent thing (though this will never happen because it’s the Liberal party) and ride your all your ACTUAL free choices to your doom Liberal party.
I think you underestimate how frightened the hardheads in the ALP are. It may look as though the Liberals are the ones leaking votes (and of course they are) but the biggest constituency for one nation is comprised of working families - the middle and outer suburbs - who have been the butt of Labor/Greens/ABC satire for decades, without having any practical alternative (Howard captured these battlers for a short while but overreached badly in his last parliament and they did not remain).
I think we’ll see Labor losing its heartland to ON at the Victorian election - those voters are desperate for a party which might actually represent their interests.
The Liberals have collapsed through failing to stand for anything, the ALP is going to follow them down the same road because they’ve focussed on the same managerial/media/professional classes who are captives of the Greens and whose interests are diametrically opposed to those of their historic core.
It’s the same argument as England where first Boris, the Reform has captured the working class and much of the middle class - who are socially conservative and are happy to actually deliver the fabled fair days work for their fair days pay.
I'm inclined to agree with Evad. I think if cheating at the level of vote count is happening, it is very marginal. Anne, I've not seen any evidence that Australia uses Dominion voting systems. We count paper ballots by hand and there are scrutineers present for the process.
Hanson is a sub literate retard, surrounded by a bunch of has beens , trying to use whatever popularity she has to further their own abject ambitions . The LNP are a bunch of pretend farmers , couldn’t tell a steer from a bull. The Labor cucks are led by a cretin who never had a real job and thinks hanging out with the red nappy mob, and the gay tranny crowd represents leadership, are woke mediocrity incarnate.
And yet, judging by the comments people still think this provincial sideshow of circus freaks is worthy of attention and analysis. You get the leaders you deserve.
Well expressed summary of recent politics by a true wordsmith.
I find it amazing, cum irritating, that the word 'magnate' has only ever been used in connection with Lang and Gina, btw.
Big business might well hate red tape but it also loves immigration (aka cheap, willing labour).
Surely, One Nation is stealing votes from NP/LP, not ALP/GREENS/TEALS, and we will therefore see no difference in government or policy.
Next, I doubt the response to COVID would have been other than it was had One Nation been in control.
All over the planet we had similar responses with politically diverse leadership.
Hanson is tapping into a vein of significant white working class economic pain and associated disgruntlement.
Farage and Trump have been doing similar. They are political opportunists with no capacity (or intention) to deliver better outcomes for the peasants/plebs.
I'm not sure about Hanson but I believe that Malcolm Roberts is sincere in his opposition to Covid and WHO overreach. But I agree with you that grievance politics is not a solution, and the problem for reactionary populism is that the party defines itself by what it's AGAINST when it's out of power, but must redefine itself by what it's FOR once it gains a foothold.
It’s a fight against socialism, Evad. One Nation are for Australians, not global elitists. Their policies certainly would improve Australia and return it back to the democratic capitalist society it’s always been. One where everyone gets a fair go, so long as they commit to Australian values and want to be ‘Australian’.
Nice summary of what’s going on Rebekah. One Nation are a growing force. A force that is getting my vote. They are the only party that want to keep Australia Australian. I hope every Australian wants to conserve the traditional Australian way of life and joins me in voting for them too.
I urge everyone to look up their party website and read their policies. Common sense is their theme.
I’m still not convinced. I see a lot of protest voting, not so much loyalty voting.
Like many Australians I’ve had enough of the majors, and will most likely never vote for them again. But One Nation doesn’t strike me as a complete party yet with a proper democratic constitution. Their voting history is also confusing, and despite often taking a libertarian outlook, they are a little too fond of surveillance legislation for my liking.
They are closer to ‘complete’ than they’ve ever been and are determinedly working to become a major player. The only way that can happen is for people to vote for them.
I believe they have now broken through the obstacles put in place by the uni-party. It’s just a matter of everyone else believing it too and voting for them - the sky’s the limit.
I don’t think it’s protest voting. I think that’s underestimating the intelligence of the Australians that are changing their vote.
With regard to your ‘democratic constitution’ comment, I encourage you to get on their website and have a good look. They are refining their platform and are clear in what they stand for whether you like it or not.
And their voting history….well, that’s politics I guess. When you’re a minor party trying to get some points on the board, sometimes you’ve got to give a bit to things you don’t necessarily agree with. As they grow, I’m sure you can see their power shifts in their direction. As proof in the pudding, they are now getting preferences from the Libs! Who would have thunk it.
You lost me on “voting history” Dale. That’s actually the only thing that matters - integrity.
One Nation have historically supported the ASIO legislation (let’s see how they vote today), they supported the Hate Crimes bill until public pressure forced them to pivot, and also the metadata retention laws. There are more of course, but these 3 alone demonstrate that ON aren’t consistently pro freedom and Australia first.
I wish it were different 😞
Fair enough.
It’s a good sign that they were willing to pivot and listen to the voters. The issue arises of who is the best party to vote for that will make the best changes for Australians - remembering that no party is ever going to be perfect. IMO there is no other party other than One Nation that has a glimmer of a chance of doing that.
That’s why they’ll be getting my vote.
It’s also worth remembering that we don’t have to vote for a party. Independents that aren’t tied to party politics are a much better option for voters in my view. MPs must be free to represent their constituents, rather than their Parties.
I guess so. But they’re less likely to have an impact given they’re stand-alone. One Nation will now definitely have an impact.
Great rundown Rebekah, except for calling the Teals (who are not at all independent) "fiscally conservative". Anyone that supports the net zero expenditure - Snowy 2.0 to the Orana REZ and the next great drainer of taxpayer funds after VNI West the Walcha to Bayswater transmission line - is anything but fiscally conservative. They believe that money grows on trees - and it is OK to bulldoze the same trees - koalas and all! Yes, I am one of the couple of hundred thousand regional Aussies fighting Govco for my home & community, in Barnaby's electorate. Go One Nation.
Fair point Annette!
Well written Rebekah. Now One Nation has taken the seat of Farrer, many people will be encouraged to vote One Nation. The slurs from the opposition and the media don't work anymore. People are not as scared to vote differently now, they can see a One Nation rise and want to jump on the bus.
If the 2 majors (if that's what you still want to call them) can't manage the country well, we'll look for alternatives. Labor and the Coalition have been exposed as a Uni-party, and I for one will enjoy seeing their demise.
About time.
We need a party to keep the bustards honest.
I'm old to remember who last said that.
I'd love to think ON was our answer but I have my doubts. Let's not forgot that Barnaby was the Deputy PM during the worst Covid years ('21-'22) and did sweet FA for those of us rallying against the tyranny and breach of civil rights. He also looks like a chronic boozer, not a good start. And Pauline is hardly one to instill real optimism IMO...too many stunts, not enough grey matter or substance.
BUT if their surge in popularity, opens the door to minors like Gerard Rennick and his PFP then I'm all in. Anything to overturn the majors and while we're there, drive a stake into the dangerous Greens/Teal lobby.
Joyce does not inspire inspiration in me either and I agree that fewer stunts and more hard policy is a better approach - although one wonders if Pauline would have had such cut-through without the stunts, to be honest.
ON needs Rennick + Antic to have any real credibility
Yes, I totally agree. Malcolm Roberts, Gerard Rennick and Alex Antic are all competent and ready to assume ministerial roles in a new three-way coaltion government - all way more qualified than Sussan Ley that the delusional faction bosses and power brokers in the Liberal Party thought fit to offer to us as alternative PM material . . .NOT!!!
i am more bullish regards ON. I think PH has finally broken through. BJ has been terrific. i am thinking ON will take office in 2028.
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Total BS.
yeh, you can vote for the uniparty and get more of the same destructive rubbish we have endured for decades.
Labor didn't contest Farrer because Albanese didn't want to risk a poor showing particularly pre-budget and Labor correctly predicted the Coalition would receive a drubbing against ONE Nation proving that the Coalition is in terminal decline.
The two-party preferred voting system is the biggest impediment to serious political change in this country, and yet I never hear any of the minor parties calling for it to be replaced. New Zealand adopted proportional voting in 1996 after a 1993 referendum. That's what we need to push for.
Thanks Robyn, I didn't realise NZ had switched systems via referendum.
The “free choice forced vaccination programme” ended me contemplating ever voting liberal/national again. I’ll vote Green before ticking Liberal/National. Changing their positions now only because they’re facing electoral oblivion exemplifies their spinelessness. Do the decent thing (though this will never happen because it’s the Liberal party) and ride your all your ACTUAL free choices to your doom Liberal party.
I think you underestimate how frightened the hardheads in the ALP are. It may look as though the Liberals are the ones leaking votes (and of course they are) but the biggest constituency for one nation is comprised of working families - the middle and outer suburbs - who have been the butt of Labor/Greens/ABC satire for decades, without having any practical alternative (Howard captured these battlers for a short while but overreached badly in his last parliament and they did not remain).
I think we’ll see Labor losing its heartland to ON at the Victorian election - those voters are desperate for a party which might actually represent their interests.
The Liberals have collapsed through failing to stand for anything, the ALP is going to follow them down the same road because they’ve focussed on the same managerial/media/professional classes who are captives of the Greens and whose interests are diametrically opposed to those of their historic core.
It’s the same argument as England where first Boris, the Reform has captured the working class and much of the middle class - who are socially conservative and are happy to actually deliver the fabled fair days work for their fair days pay.
Yes fair, ON pose the most immediate threat to the Coalition but if they do take western Sydney, the ALP will have something to worry about.
Very good..!
A pretty good introductory summary for a global audience of what is going on in Australia. Well done.
An excellent explanation. I believe electoral rigging (cheating) including the vote count is rigged in Australia, just as it is in the USA.
We use the same dominion counting system after all.
Dirty politics has been going on for as long as this country has been developed, following the British system, and we know what’s happening there.
One Nation has been allocated minimal funding from the big guns who are becoming more communistic by the day.
Having been associated with the vote casting/counting process I find it difficult to see how fraud could occur.
Gerrymandering is a different issue.
I'm inclined to agree with Evad. I think if cheating at the level of vote count is happening, it is very marginal. Anne, I've not seen any evidence that Australia uses Dominion voting systems. We count paper ballots by hand and there are scrutineers present for the process.
Hanson is a sub literate retard, surrounded by a bunch of has beens , trying to use whatever popularity she has to further their own abject ambitions . The LNP are a bunch of pretend farmers , couldn’t tell a steer from a bull. The Labor cucks are led by a cretin who never had a real job and thinks hanging out with the red nappy mob, and the gay tranny crowd represents leadership, are woke mediocrity incarnate.
And yet, judging by the comments people still think this provincial sideshow of circus freaks is worthy of attention and analysis. You get the leaders you deserve.
Who would you vote for?
I don’t bother , haven’t for decades
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Well expressed summary of recent politics by a true wordsmith.
I find it amazing, cum irritating, that the word 'magnate' has only ever been used in connection with Lang and Gina, btw.
Big business might well hate red tape but it also loves immigration (aka cheap, willing labour).
Surely, One Nation is stealing votes from NP/LP, not ALP/GREENS/TEALS, and we will therefore see no difference in government or policy.
Next, I doubt the response to COVID would have been other than it was had One Nation been in control.
All over the planet we had similar responses with politically diverse leadership.
Hanson is tapping into a vein of significant white working class economic pain and associated disgruntlement.
Farage and Trump have been doing similar. They are political opportunists with no capacity (or intention) to deliver better outcomes for the peasants/plebs.
Solution? There isn't one.
I'm not sure about Hanson but I believe that Malcolm Roberts is sincere in his opposition to Covid and WHO overreach. But I agree with you that grievance politics is not a solution, and the problem for reactionary populism is that the party defines itself by what it's AGAINST when it's out of power, but must redefine itself by what it's FOR once it gains a foothold.
It’s a fight against socialism, Evad. One Nation are for Australians, not global elitists. Their policies certainly would improve Australia and return it back to the democratic capitalist society it’s always been. One where everyone gets a fair go, so long as they commit to Australian values and want to be ‘Australian’.
Capitalism + AI = mass unemployment
Meanwhile, 'democracies' do not work.
Sorry mate, I beg to differ. Feel free to name a better system.
One Nation were the only party to pass this test: https://wentworthreport.com/tested-and-found-wanting/