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JakeUrlus's avatar

It could be someone who disagreed with him ideologically. Or it could have been facilitated/orchestrated, by powerful interests. Cui bono? The partisan divide deepens, more and more people fight each other, the 'other side', at the expense of looking up.

As one starts paying more attention to the world, and recognising patterns, strong skepticism seems both sensible and necessary...

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Rebekah Barnett's avatar

True. We don’t know yet who the shooter was or why.

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Bryan's avatar

Kirk was definitely one of the good guys. I watched quite a few of his debates, from the Oxford Union to the campus stuff. He never belittled anyone and was always respectful.

Contrast that with the absolute deluge of invective pouring out of Reddit and Blue Sky by the deranged leftists.

The WEF aligned governments like ours always talk about 'right wing extremists' (and unsurprisingly that's how MSM has painted Kirk), but it's clear that those on the left are the true Fascists and danger to civil society.

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Rebekah Barnett's avatar

I suppose there are extremists on both sides, but Kirk was not one of them. He was pretty mainstream conservative as far as I can tell.

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Penny Carrier's avatar

I also think what Unbekoming writes about in the substack below on how medications play a big part in why empathy is lacking in so many people along with personality changes. For example, how many people take panadol (Tylenol) for every little ache and pain, (now shown to reduce empathy). Every medication interferes with biochemical pathways in our brain, consider carefully before you take any and whether there is something natural that will help you instead

https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/the-mind-thieves-how-your-medicine?r=18k2gn&triedRedirect=true

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Rebekah Barnett's avatar

Interesting, I’m a fan on Frank’s work, will take a look thanks Penny.

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Deborah Robinson's avatar

A great man. Tragic what has happened to him. An inspirational human being. He believed in free speech, honest dialogue and debate. May his memory be a blessing. 💔

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Mike Kulas's avatar

So tragic that a man, husband and father of two babes is so publicly murdered. Though I've been aware of Kirk for many years I never went out of my way to search out his work as I found him to be serving too many interests simultaneously, perhaps that was my failure. I deeply dread the thought that this horrific event is so useful to so many.

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Madeleine Love's avatar

I'm late to the party, but dropping in to say that the context of Kirk's argument on the human life trade off for guns related to a comparison of 41,000 (2023) automobile-related deaths in the US. The car deaths are a trade-off for the convenience of cars - a trade most people accept and understand.

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Penny Carrier's avatar

Chase Hughes has a very good summary of what's going on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azE7nqqQMmo&t=29s

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Kika's avatar

For sure its another psyop. "Kirk has been skilfully scripted as a legend and an archetype, first seeded into the consciousness over 40 years ago through the creation of Alex P. Keaton in Family Ties."

Please read this article by the excellent Miri.

https://miri.substack.com/p/charlie-kirk-turning-point-or-tv?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=384935&post_id=173358235&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=11vc3d&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

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Kika's avatar

One of the results of this organised assassination is predictable. As usual, the government of the day (Trump) is attacking the wrong target, ensuring that the guilty are protected. So the Trump administration are ‘cracking down’ on ‘radical left groups and …(insert names here)………’.

Meanwhile the Zionist infiltration, the World Economic Forum, the United Nations, Central Bankers and the City of London are not targeted or even mentioned. Fancy that!

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/looking-soros-looks-rico-trump-puts-crosshairs-radical-leftist-ngos

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Ross Curtis's avatar

It's all pretty deplorable really. Was the trigger-puller one psychotically deranged by medication whose side effect was to precipitate such behaviour? I had never heard of Charlie Kirk until I learnt of his slaughter in Utah. To understand that he was an outstanding representative, bringing open debate to university campuses, by generating civility and respect towards those of differing points of view, enables me to gain some perspective. Is it part of the machinery of the deep state to seek to entrench division and animosity within society, that to allow the influence of one whose whole modus operandi was to bring people together in discourse, was to invite his assassination? I have no desire to watch any footage of Charlie Kirk's death because it would not serve me to to have such imagery imprinted in my consciousness. If nothing else, may the event in Utah a few days ago serve to bring into stark relief the utter absurdity of the extreme leftist ideology - of the totally corrupt US Democratic party. Criminality has no purpose whatsoever in society.

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Rebekah Barnett's avatar

I won’t be watching the footage either.

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Kika's avatar

I believe Kirk is alive and that the event was staged. Its a great distraction .... from what? Perhaps its this ..... "Threat of stagflation bears down on world's largest economy as Federal Reserve decision looms" They are about to lower interest rates.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-17/threat-of-stagflation-bears-down-on-world-s-largest-economy/105781264

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Kika's avatar
Sep 12Edited

Amazon advertised a book about the alleged shooting - but book was published on 9th, alleged shooting on 10th September. Very strange! Amazon has now removed details of this book, but I found it here .....

https://web.archive.org/web/20250911163616/https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FQMF466K

And this is the 'Daily Mail's' comment: "Daily Mail gives Amazon's response .... "Speaking with the Daily Mail, an Amazon spokesperson confirmed that the book was listed on September 10, noting that the publishing date was wrong due to a system error.

'The title in question is no longer available for sale. Due to a technical issue, the date of publication that had been displayed for this title, while it was briefly listed, was incorrect, and we apologize for any confusion this may have caused,' the spokesperson said.

They added that the 81-page book was actually published 'late in the afternoon' on September 10, the day Kirk was killed in Orem, Utah.

While the book was briefly available on Amazon, it was advertised as being written by Anastasia J Casey. However, the Daily Mail could not find any record of a published author by that name."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-15093069/Amazon-sells-book-Charlie-Kirks-assassination.html

Its got 'psy op' written all over it.

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Rebekah Barnett's avatar

But also, totally plausible that AI pumped this out within minutes…

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